Received: from localhost ([::1]:34395 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XhjxR-00009l-RD; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:51:29 -0700 Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net ([68.230.241.215]:33783) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XhjxO-00009c-FB for llg-board@lojban.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:51:27 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo109 ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141024185120.XFVV31158.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo109> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:51:20 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.248.61]) by eastrmimpo109 with cox id 76rK1p00b1LDWBL016rK2U; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:51:20 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020206.544A9FA8.00C4,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Y70mRGiN c=1 sm=1 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:17 a=BGi6d-X4uLYA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=thkejVOVZQfvDVdZV4gA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-ID: <544A9FAE.6030806@lojban.org> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:51:26 -0400 From: "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" Organization: The Logical Language Group, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-board@lojban.org References: <54383007.8060506@lojban.org> <1Y6n1p00Z56Cr6M01Y6pyp> In-Reply-To: <1Y6n1p00Z56Cr6M01Y6pyp> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [llg-board] 2014 annual meeting X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org On 10/10/2014 4:06 PM, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 03:14:15PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote: > >> So I move the above meeting date and preliminaries. I'd like a second, and >> then allow 3 days after that second for any objection to the motion (in >> which case we can discuss and hold a vote). > > I second this motion. The motion is presumed approved, but has been overtaken by events, in that I have had no time to work on the bylaw amendment summary, which is necessary to consider same during the meeting. We may need to start the meeting without bylaw amendments, if I am going to move things along before I am sidelined for surgery. I welcome alternate suggestions for dealing with bylaws - perhaps a special meeting, or perhaps someone can see an interpretation of the bylaws that allows amendments to be considered 2 weeks after notification, even if the meeting started earlier. (Such an interpretation doesn't look plausible to me.) The primary bylaw changes are confirmation of changes that appear to have been intended in 2003, but the minutes are ambiguous as to whether they were approved. See the Lojban List thread instigated by mukti at the end of August and lasting a few days into September entitled verifying LLG's current bylaws. (Perhaps the confirmation of a presumed change is not a change requiring notice.) I also planned to add one Bylaw proposal to separate the Secretary and Treasurer offices to allow separate people to hold them. There have been complaints about the lack of meeting minutes from annual and Board meetings, and Robin has made it pretty clear he doesn't want to do them. Electing someone like mukti who seems to care about the matter is a solution. Or perhaps we can talk mukti into taking on the still-combined Secretary/Treasurer job. Opinions on all this are welcome. I will plan to announce the meeting starting the 3rd, after this weekend, and without the bylaw amendments, unless someone has another idea. lojbab _______________________________________________ llg-board mailing list llg-board@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board