Received: from localhost ([::1]:46057 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Ys6Py-0002gI-Mt; Tue, 12 May 2015 02:24:02 -0700 Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]:34728) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Ys6Ps-0002fa-RM for llg-board@lojban.org; Tue, 12 May 2015 02:24:01 -0700 Received: by wgic8 with SMTP id c8so1758822wgi.1 for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 02:23:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=VnSrfvK4Mm8x2c6iw27e5B+dYjrdlwPSeAFa/NHnXkE=; b=RoR6nSlIEoN49mmA4uIHL4cfZddfHzAIlxuGNJLwEOuSBEitMWvo+xoX76TqcrpcPi Mgt/+W11pNDhRPk4kgAOF/3au7bZryTK5dVI3IasLsPlc8VAp+5ExUl8JBZh1r/WfFjv GefVM+VY8B3Dop33IrXcBK9ppsDoErvKueCfA99TnGKpFoKwmH4NiC3G+ulFy2rY9LWI NKkYssvYvd+dHj+XYRdqyF5Mhedf5mgyOnmt+6t7OK59a+9nFlfcj75Ml08aAME2jSXv AGVJZFSTpZKdhP6FRcIOq0mTchSIUrTbfpbXHkI9dP9PKcuwQrrRspIFZ7SH8CZBTpW7 D02w== X-Received: by 10.180.231.41 with SMTP id td9mr28309276wic.69.1431422629692; Tue, 12 May 2015 02:23:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Tue, 12 May 2015 02:23:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5550E284.5000602@lojban.org> References: <554513DC.1040404@lojban.org> <67FF02B5-7AF9-49A1-87A8-B8C1F76A16AA@gmail.com> <554B1CA4.1060509@lojban.org> <767DD57A-4387-40C1-805F-C54A47EC4D84@gmail.com> <5550E284.5000602@lojban.org> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 12:23:29 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.0 X-Spam_score_int: -9 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [llg-board] Board election X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2841868112294723009==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============2841868112294723009== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134c5cc5dca380515df0df7 --001a1134c5cc5dca380515df0df7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2015-05-11 20:10 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG < lojbab@lojban.org>: > On 5/11/2015 2:24 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > >> >> 2015-05-09 9:04 GMT+03:00 Riley Martinez-Lynch > >: >> >> =E2=80=A2 Balandin, Arkadii >> >> >> Clearly, no. la lojbab said this person should be {pu'o jatna}. Non-US >> residents imo are out of question since this is an American organization >> (or at least its headquarters). >> > > Since we have in fact had a non-US resident as President, there isn't > necessarily a problem. I certainly think you could do the job, if you > wanted to. > > It is legally an American organization in part because I have no idea how > to create an legal international organization. The headquarters aspect i= s > met by the requirement for a Virginia representative. Neither the > President nor the VP needs to live in Virginia. > > It is plausible that the separate Virginia representative would be > sufficient Americanization, even if all of the officers were non-US, but = I > think it wise that at least one officer be familiar with US business > concepts (and Riley probably satisfies that right now). > > Copyright/intellectual property is one aspect that has occasionally come > up. Ali's proposal for a project manager brings up the question of > "employees". Someone non-US could handle such issues by consulting with = a > US attorney; that generally costs money (as would hiring an attorney to > serve as "Virginia representative") If we envision the president more as an embassador of Lojbanistan to the outer world then an ideal one should: 1. be a resident of the US 2. live in one of major cities or in their suburbs (thus be easily available) bonus: 3. have jbopanzi One of Lojbanists in history even satisfied all those conditions. As for other countries LLG can confirm particular people as official representatives in those countries when needed. > > > lojbab > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > llg-board mailing list > llg-board@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board > --001a1134c5cc5dca380515df0df7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2015-05-11 20:10 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG= <lojbab@lojban.org>:
On 5/11/2015 2:24 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:

2015-05-09 9:04 GMT+03:00 Riley Martinez-Lynch <shunpiker@gmail.com
 <mailto:shunpik= er@gmail.com>>:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=E2=80=A2 Balandin, Arkadii=


Clearly, no. la lojbab said this person should be {pu'o jatna}. Non-US<= br> residents imo are out of question since this is an American organization (or at least its headquarters).

Since we have in fact had a non-US resident as President, there isn't n= ecessarily a problem.=C2=A0 I certainly think you could do the job, if you = wanted to.

It is legally an American organization in part because I have no idea how t= o create an legal international organization.=C2=A0 The headquarters aspect= is met by the requirement for a Virginia representative.=C2=A0 Neither the= President nor the VP needs to live in Virginia.

It is plausible that the separate Virginia representative would be sufficie= nt Americanization, even if all of the officers were non-US, but I think it= wise that at least one officer be familiar with US business concepts (and = Riley probably satisfies that right now).

Copyright/intellectual property is one aspect that has occasionally come up= .=C2=A0 Ali's proposal for a project manager brings up the question of = "employees".=C2=A0 Someone non-US could handle such issues by con= sulting with a US attorney; that generally costs money (as would hiring an = attorney to serve as "Virginia representative")
=
If we envision the president more as an embassador of Lojban= istan to the outer world then an ideal one should:
1. be a reside= nt of the US
2. live in one of major cities or in their suburbs (= thus be easily available)=C2=A0
bonus:
3. have jbopanzi=
One of Lojbanists in history even satisfied all those conditions= .

As for other countries LLG can confirm particula= r people as official representatives in those countries when needed.
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


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