Received: from localhost ([::1]:47311 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YsCRd-0000AB-UQ; Tue, 12 May 2015 08:50:09 -0700 Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com ([209.85.212.170]:36599) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YsCRT-000095-GV for llg-board@lojban.org; Tue, 12 May 2015 08:50:06 -0700 Received: by wizk4 with SMTP id k4so160213313wiz.1 for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 08:49:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UKmg3JppJhwCF88JueEnm7c9XEU0Ue1NVb2C8g6XGcM=; b=dIYr60rTdEifEUue41vXExnmYiIH72p64GdDdukZQ76YDyiQN+LfjIQ7GqZxKX51Jp bNtPeFSuzDAC4kTCKxclO8omE4HTwFMT51ElgYLal9Nt0HMW7B5MLVgHI+HKwP82rseD nORW2zJiKeuhfqd6zWHDdH+59NQBELMje96LNDmZXTF0XpeyKYIomRVoNO5rEW5+OOHP 73iuXknKg28ovJNnTcAh2IeqLw4sMg6aOkqgxTcUvakxTu6QnFBAqtIELRx462xXBmRJ 8PL2WLf6mPd2/2327FZ2ViS1ErriRvZXKnrLVt5mDL5WGSP9W60hjSGu9PvV1K1YDsVf xU3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.101.138 with SMTP id fg10mr6375260wib.46.1431445792551; Tue, 12 May 2015 08:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.170.193 with HTTP; Tue, 12 May 2015 08:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.170.193 with HTTP; Tue, 12 May 2015 08:49:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <554513DC.1040404@lojban.org> <67FF02B5-7AF9-49A1-87A8-B8C1F76A16AA@gmail.com> <554B1CA4.1060509@lojban.org> <5550DD9F.2010607@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 16:49:52 +0100 Message-ID: From: And Rosta To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [llg-board] Board election X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2905139323024285511==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============2905139323024285511== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444e9a5faf8330515e47120 --f46d0444e9a5faf8330515e47120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 My interpretation of Riley's suggestion is that during what we'd intend to be the curtailed terms of Pres (Bob) and VP (maybe me), the Pres and VP focus on recruiting onto the board people interested in undertaking various kinds of leadership; they'd join the board at the next LLG meeting, which would be called later this year. If this is what Riley and Craig support too, then I suggest we give it a few days to see if anyone wants to make a counterproposal. I do want to add that if someone else would like to volunteer for the VP role as outlined above, I will be pleased rather than chagrined; I'd rather leave the effort to someone else (& indeed I volunteered for the board only so as to encourage other more suitable colleagues to volunteer; I hadn't expected to actually be elected). --And On 12 May 2015 16:34, "Craig Daniel" wrote: > I would support this, conditioned on the board taking steps to encourage > and assist the unofficial leaders within the Lojban community. > > On 5:52am, Tue, May 12, 2015 Riley Martinez-Lynch > wrote: > >> On May 12, 2015, at 5:17 AM, And Rosta wrote: >> >> The members of the Board and even of the LLG weren't selected with the >> purpose of ensuring the Board contained someone suitable for the sort of >> active leadership role you very reasonably envisage as desirable. >> >> I suspect we may be seeing here a consequence of the fact that the >> responsibilities of the Board are little understood by the community, and >> even by the membership. This lack of understanding is at once cause and >> effect of the long period during which there were few recruits, and has had >> the effect -- as lojbab underscored in his presidential report a few years >> back -- of shrinking the pool of prospective leaders. >> >> I think there's agreement that going forward the Board should make >> efforts to keep the community informed about its work, if only in the >> interest of cultivating potential directors and officers. I intend to work >> on that as secretary. >> >> I have too much on in my life that requires me to be promptly attentive >> to business for me to volunteer to take on this role. I am, tho, willing to >> work with Riley on establishing whether the community wants an active >> leader and on finding one; I would offer to take the VP role for one year >> if that was the extent of my duties. >> >> I would support And taking on the role of VP, noting that one of the >> duties of the president, which could possibly be delegated to the vice >> president, is the determination of the timing of the annual meeting, and by >> extension, the election of officers by the board. So in the case that our >> effort to recruit new leadership bears fruit, the president and vice >> president could choose to abbreviate their terms by calling the meeting to >> order in late summer, etc. >> >> --Riley >> >> _______________________________________________ >> llg-board mailing list >> llg-board@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board >> > > _______________________________________________ > llg-board mailing list > llg-board@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board > > --f46d0444e9a5faf8330515e47120 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My interpretation of Riley's suggestion is that during w= hat we'd intend to be the curtailed terms of Pres (Bob) and VP (maybe m= e), the Pres and VP focus on recruiting onto the board people interested in= undertaking various kinds of leadership; they'd join the board at the = next LLG meeting, which would be called later this year.

If this is what Riley and Craig support too, then I suggest = we give it a few days to see if anyone wants to make a counterproposal. I d= o want to add that if someone else would like to volunteer for the VP role = as outlined above, I will be pleased rather than chagrined; I'd rather = leave the effort to someone else (& indeed I volunteered for the board = only so as to encourage other more suitable colleagues to volunteer; I hadn= 't expected to actually be elected).

--And

On 12 May 2015 16:34, "Craig Daniel" &= lt;craigbdaniel@gmail.com>= wrote:

I would support this, conditioned on the board taking steps to encourage= and assist the unofficial leaders within the Lojban community.


On 5:52am, Tue, May 12, 2015=C2=A0Riley Mart= inez-Lynch <shu= npiker@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 12, 2015, at 5:17 AM, And Rosta <= ;and.rosta@gmail.c= om> wrote:

The members of the Board and even of th= e LLG weren't selected with the purpose of ensuring the Board contained= someone suitable for the sort of active leadership role you very reasonabl= y envisage as desirable.

I suspect we may be seeing here a consequence of th= e fact that the responsibilities of the Board are little understood by the = community, and even by the membership. This lack of understanding is at onc= e cause and effect of the long period during which there were few recruits,= and has had the effect -- as lojbab underscored in his presidential report= a few years back -- of shrinking the pool of prospective leaders.

I think there's agreement that going forward the Board= should make efforts to keep the community informed about its work, if only= in the interest of cultivating potential directors and officers. I intend = to work on that as secretary.

I have too much on in= my life that requires me to be promptly attentive to business for me to vo= lunteer to take on this role. I am, tho, willing to work with Riley on esta= blishing whether the community wants an active leader and on finding one; I= would offer to take the VP role for one year if that was the extent of my = duties.=C2=A0

I would support And taking on the role of VP, noting that one = of the duties of the president, which could possibly be delegated to the vi= ce president, is the determination of the timing of the annual meeting, and= by extension, the election of officers by the board. So in the case that o= ur effort to recruit new leadership bears fruit, the president and vice pre= sident could choose to abbreviate their terms by calling the meeting to ord= er in late summer, etc.

--Riley

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