Received: from localhost ([::1]:47892 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YsFxP-0000mn-Hl; Tue, 12 May 2015 12:35:11 -0700 Received: from mail-pd0-f179.google.com ([209.85.192.179]:36259) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YsFxI-0000lp-T9 for llg-board@lojban.org; Tue, 12 May 2015 12:35:10 -0700 Received: by pdea3 with SMTP id a3so24339023pde.3 for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 12:34:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=dW3Xz+o5134SibHdMqhzALOjoIZMhYtL9RzHPoK3+Vk=; b=GwsykA6t7bCcWlew9GAU1I53gLBFyY5pkLAn3FS9EFPsVdRO4z9CZsDlahk3A1IqFS r5t3uTrU9R7f1PPb8SGGfgXkpioQDv5pL3kxWUflf3KyXaDymWsPv2lCJsZzaU5w9Llt yAC9NjBONnbJcBwN75oVc9Hi1xkq663wfAEaUTc9PlBIKsZoa81Zfz5CG0i05Dvq/Lb9 b1J+NBC1S9O9i9oLv0boQ4xil3PwYMa6WrO0pKNY2ki5EVB8ZjEy93I/r+X7lIN/PUzr oPjwx9Tcq0fSStsoz5Sy8bZWk9md+M0OwXQlGRiVUf1j78n5T2sTzH5Bbirnq5EIwPXN Uq6Q== X-Received: by 10.70.29.4 with SMTP id f4mr31351132pdh.23.1431459298724; Tue, 12 May 2015 12:34:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <554513DC.1040404@lojban.org> <67FF02B5-7AF9-49A1-87A8-B8C1F76A16AA@gmail.com> <554B1CA4.1060509@lojban.org> <5550DD9F.2010607@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: From: Craig Daniel Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 19:34:58 +0000 Message-ID: To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [llg-board] Board election X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1251726171554745129==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============1251726171554745129== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6c13802d1e60515e79709 --047d7bd6c13802d1e60515e79709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:49 PM And Rosta wrote: > > On 12 May 2015 18:14, "Gleki Arxokuna" wrote: > > > > > > > > 2015-05-12 18:49 GMT+03:00 And Rosta : > >> > >> My interpretation of Riley's suggestion is that during what we'd intend > to be the curtailed terms of Pres (Bob) and VP (maybe me), the Pres and VP > focus on recruiting onto the board people interested in undertaking various > kinds of leadership; they'd join the board at the next LLG meeting, which > would be called later this year. > >> > >> If this is what Riley and Craig support too, then I suggest we give it > a few days to see if anyone wants to make a counterproposal. I do want to > add that if someone else would like to volunteer for the VP role as > outlined above, I will be pleased rather than chagrined; I'd rather leave > the effort to someone else (& indeed I volunteered for the board only so as > to encourage other more suitable colleagues to volunteer; I hadn't expected > to actually be elected). > > > > > > So Craig Daniel and And Rosta showed some agreement to ballot for > president at least as a temporary measure. > > > > If so I'd definitely vote for one of them. > > I think Craig meant he'd support me taking on VP on the basis Riley > suggested. Craig goes incommunicado during baseball season and is therefore > cautious not to overcommit himself. > This. I'm not completely incommunicado, but I'm working about 60 hours a week and don't have huge amounts of time to devote to the office. I'd be willing to hold a position in the future, but given that part of Bob's concern is also being intermittently unreachable I figure we don't make a great pair this year. > > > > However, we should think of someone from the US who can > > 1. speak fluent or at least sufficient colloquial Lojban > > 2. who can be ready to become a representative of Lojbanistan, i.e. > visit radio/TV shows, idk what else. > > > > I don't know if such position must be equal to the position of president. > It would be good to identify people to be lojbo ambassadors, and I'd > support a proposal to do that (maybe you could lead the process?); but I > think suitable leaders are anybody who has proved themselves to be active, > enthusiastic and level-headed and sensible for an extended period of time. > Yeah, agreed. I see those qualifications as minimally relevant to the corporate officers, but important people to support in their involvement. Not all leadership in Lojbanistan is related to running the LLG. - Craig --047d7bd6c13802d1e60515e79709 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:49 PM= And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com> wrote:


On 12 May 2015 18:14, "Gleki Arxokuna" <
gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
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>
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> 2015-05-12 18:49 GMT+03:00 And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com>:
>>
>> My interpretation of Riley's suggestion is that during what we= 'd intend to be the curtailed terms of Pres (Bob) and VP (maybe me), th= e Pres and VP focus on recruiting onto the board people interested in under= taking various kinds of leadership; they'd join the board at the next L= LG meeting, which would be called later this year.
>>
>> If this is what Riley and Craig support too, then I suggest we giv= e it a few days to see if anyone wants to make a counterproposal. I do want= to add that if someone else would like to volunteer for the VP role as out= lined above, I will be pleased rather than chagrined; I'd rather leave = the effort to someone else (& indeed I volunteered for the board only s= o as to encourage other more suitable colleagues to volunteer; I hadn't= expected to actually be elected).
>
>
> So Craig Daniel and And Rosta showed some agreement to ballot for pres= ident at least as a temporary measure.
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> If so I'd definitely vote for one of them.

I think Craig meant he'd support me taking on VP on the = basis Riley suggested. Craig goes incommunicado during baseball season and = is therefore cautious not to overcommit himself.

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This. I'm not completely incommunicado, but I'm worki= ng about 60 hours a week and don't have huge amounts of time to devote = to the office. I'd be willing to hold a position in the future, but giv= en that part of Bob's concern is also being intermittently unreachable = I figure we don't make a great pair this year.

>
> However, we should think of someone from the US who can=C2=A0
> 1. speak fluent or at least sufficient colloquial Lojban
> 2. who can be ready to become a representative of Lojbanistan, i.e. vi= sit radio/TV shows, idk what else.
>
> I don't know if such position must be equal to the position of pre= sident.

It wo= uld be good to identify people to be lojbo ambassadors, and I'd support= a proposal to do that (maybe you could lead the process?); but I think sui= table leaders are anybody who has proved themselves to be active, enthusias= tic and level-headed and sensible for an extended period of time.

Yeah, agreed. I see those qualifications as minimally rel= evant to the corporate officers, but important people to support in their i= nvolvement. Not all leadership in Lojbanistan is related to running the LLG= .

=C2=A0- Craig=C2=A0
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