Received: from localhost ([::1]:42193 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZhwgG-0001Z9-9L; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 02:31:08 -0700 Received: from mail-qg0-f48.google.com ([209.85.192.48]:33480) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Zf69B-0006kn-AA for llg-board@lojban.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2015 06:01:18 -0700 Received: by qgev79 with SMTP id v79so43079846qge.0 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2015 06:01:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to; bh=JruLuUjADaf5H5hWQX31RefgPr1fZF6KFpcEQB56MJI=; b=nB8jYu4bpoPQ/GJWp5k48Btcfdh3Icn/MH8hSboDvbIdFiit4HMDTtTe4mlK3nLo3I RfvW3LdzNg9R72Mw5gezAZIKOwzAjja+vs7ttNZm1mEbfvhHL59A+vJXJcrdSKmuQp2m KKdGElVOg6jm1UaX76ObnJcW1CN6GahYx2llRmorl5EFx1kj5ncquJWWlAa6qwCzxrPr c671PdxCnA4rXuOGj+dgN8209JBAUN04C4bxWX5Ksedm8Fy23A7R6c96XnjIKPKup1ln JuwQnIFUp/+kvVwSFuXJ3gALOagCEC8X/w3fBXGV6OIoDYE2jF4ek7IYjs3MipOj0zBC m7vA== X-Received: by 10.140.32.247 with SMTP id h110mr21984532qgh.1.1443099667197; Thu, 24 Sep 2015 06:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caliban.fios-router.home (pool-100-33-73-219.nycmny.fios.verizon.net. [100.33.73.219]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p14sm3378773qge.43.2015.09.24.06.01.06 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Sep 2015 06:01:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Riley Martinez-Lynch Message-Id: <53255A9E-C23B-416D-992F-00E29389CCDC@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 09:01:05 -0400 References: <55F848FE.9030406@lojban.org> To: llg-board@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <55F848FE.9030406@lojban.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.2 X-Spam_score_int: -21 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [llg-board] The lojban text and music pages X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4762144439760502774==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============4762144439760502774== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_286AA3CF-5746-4800-AB1E-A1C336A75C65" --Apple-Mail=_286AA3CF-5746-4800-AB1E-A1C336A75C65 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > I will note in passing that whoever redesigned the menus and home page = has made it remarkably difficult to find these two pages. They need to = be easier, and also highlighted/promoted. The recent music in = particular makes Lojban seem much closer to a living language. I agree that we should do a better job of highlighting and promoting = creations in lojban. I was amazed to have only discovered =E2=80=9Cfanmo = jimte=E2=80=9D last month at jbonunsla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJ_nKJW_KuK4 = > The Board also explicitly decided that we could not in any way promote = or publicize (much less host) the translation of "The Little Prince" on = our site, since permissions were not sought. I appreciate and respect the reasons for LLG=E2=80=99s historical = sensitivity to intellectual property issues. As a Board member, I = support the policy of not hosting on lojban.org any materials that LLG = doesn=E2=80=99t have the rights to distribute. However, I would like to = suggest that we could take a more nuanced approach than =E2=80=9Cnot in = any way promot(ing) or publiciz(ing)=E2=80=9D works like =E2=80=9Cle = cmalu noltru=E2=80=9D. I don=E2=80=99t think it is incumbent on us to = pretend that it doesn=E2=80=99t exist, although I would support adding = language to clarify that the organization doesn=E2=80=99t distribute it = and other works like that.=20 Perhaps we could work together to develop a policy that gives more = specific guidelines regarding linking to or embedding content that is = hosted elsewhere, and which takes account of the procedures provided for = by DMCA in the case that LLG were to receive a takedown request, etc. I=E2=80=99d also like to note that the wiki has a template which is = attached to pages indicating they are official LLG pages. I=E2=80=99d be = interested to know if any of the problematic content appears on such = pages, or if it appears on pages which should be assigned as official = LLG pages. For example, should the home page of the web site be = considered an official LLG page? =E2=80=94Riley= --Apple-Mail=_286AA3CF-5746-4800-AB1E-A1C336A75C65 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I = will note in passing that whoever redesigned the menus and home page has = made it remarkably difficult to find these two pages.  They need to = be easier, and also highlighted/promoted.  The recent music in = particular makes Lojban seem much closer to a living language.

I agree that we = should do a better job of highlighting and promoting creations in = lojban. I was amazed to have only discovered =E2=80=9Cfanmo jimte=E2=80=9D= last month at jbonunsla:


The Board also explicitly decided that we = could not in any way promote or publicize (much less host) the = translation of "The Little Prince" on our site, since permissions were = not sought.

I appreciate and respect the reasons for LLG=E2=80=99= s historical sensitivity to intellectual property issues. As a Board = member, I support the policy of not hosting on lojban.org any materials that = LLG doesn=E2=80=99t have the rights to distribute. However, I would like = to suggest that we could take a more nuanced approach than =E2=80=9Cnot = in any way promot(ing) or publiciz(ing)=E2=80=9D works like =E2=80=9Cle = cmalu noltru=E2=80=9D. I don=E2=80=99t think it is incumbent on us to = pretend that it doesn=E2=80=99t exist, although I would support adding = language to clarify that the organization doesn=E2=80=99t distribute it = and other works like that. 

Perhaps we could work together to develop a policy = that gives more specific guidelines regarding linking to or embedding = content that is hosted elsewhere, and which takes account of the = procedures provided for by DMCA in the case that LLG were to receive a = takedown request, etc.

I=E2=80=99d = also like to note that the wiki has a template which is attached to = pages indicating they are official LLG pages. I=E2=80=99d be interested = to know if any of the problematic content appears on such pages, or if = it appears on pages which should be assigned as official LLG pages. For = example, should the home page of the web site be considered an official = LLG page?

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