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From: Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>
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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 11:40:50 -0400
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Subject: Re: [llg-board] Time for another annual meeting?
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On 10/3/2015 8:33 AM, And Rosta wrote:
> As part of doing that I had also wanted to have a wider debate about
> what the president and vice-president's main responsibilities are. I'd
> say they are at minimum ensuring (in a buck-stops-with-them sort of way)
> that Lojban.org is in good health and that CLL is in print and available
> for a sensible price, and, beyond the minimum,  proactively coordinating
> anything that people want them to proactively coordinate.

We may need to have such a discussion during the meeting, possibly 
before the directors are elected, because we tend not to want to elect a 
non-director as an officer.

> Does anybody have a view on whether I should bother doing that now, or
> whether we should just call the meeting?

We need to call the meeting whether or not you perform such a search, 
but I don't think that should interfere with your discussing it on the 
main list.  And when we have the above-mentioned discussion during the 
meeting, you are welcome to take the lead.

I have gotten the annual corporation statement in the mail, and need to 
file it, I think before 30 November, with the list of directors.  That 
has been the deadline driving the last couple of meetings, though we can 
file using the old directors if we don't get done in time (which is what 
I did last year).

> Either way, before, or when,
> calling the next meeting, there should be a call for people to become
> LLG members, making clear their duty as members would be to attend the
> meeting and to elect the board.

Agreed.

> At the start of the meeting I would also move to remove membership from
> every member who  neither is in attendance nor has been conspicuously
> active in the Lojban community in the past year.

We generally have done this on a year-delay basis - those who did not 
attend *last year* are eligible to be removed this year if they aren't 
present.  Relative few people don't respond as present to two straight 
years of meetings.  But our problem has been that a lot of people 
indicate presence at the meeting and then never actually participate, 
even though I always leave at least a day or two for comments or 
objections at every single step (indeed the greater complaint may be 
that this drags out the meeting too long).

> And when voting for board members, I second Riley's suggestion that
> current members should not be automatically renominated. Furthermore, I
> think we should give the LLG a report on the board members' activity,
> which I would report as: pretty assiduous - Riley & Gleki; scant energy
> but still committed practically and spiritually - Lojbab; active in
> email discussion but contributes little else - And; likewise, when
> reallife permits - Craig; silent and invisible - the remainder. I would
> recommend that LLG try to elect more effective replacements for all
> board members but Riley, Gleki and Lojbab.
>
> On a different but related point, I think there should be an honorary
> lifetime role for Lojbab for when he eventually steps down from the
> board. Something comparable to the Archgrammarian title given to John
> Cowan. Ditto for Robin.

I already have two such titles "Archivist" (a job which I have no idea 
how to pass on if we wanted to)  and along with Nora, Tommy Whitlock and 
Gary Burgess, "Founder".  I also effectively have the VA representative 
job locked down though Riley has proposed that we look at paying someone 
for this service (which might require a bylaw change).

lojbab

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