Received: from localhost ([::1]:33536 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1bRmyA-00065t-1k; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:59:22 -0700 Received: from mail-qt0-f182.google.com ([209.85.216.182]:33071) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1bRmy4-00064n-CC for llg-board@lojban.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:59:20 -0700 Received: by mail-qt0-f182.google.com with SMTP id w38so106153088qtb.0 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:59:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=ME30wi5FbEMTatMXDI5nWsePNAOzOZQQZ0s0JwA8N8s=; b=CVxPx84ZUDFhognyF8VtoDhqFnxgrCNfVZJ0VQPNdSWXTfpL2NvF8xrNxj7WVsHc2L yD2/wsHYYS7zBVLy2M+8XAZEXlwxR/Ovnly1VSma1JDNyiZ3L99aJ0gYIZZwsQr4Pnlb ZrpDhOR10kN22TvqqXU3fsuS8++BpVnsedkSlQUpt41uHKPodCyxmaJggWzpALZidUMp I3Ps8uR0F/natfPQLn3MGxkG4hbl18ZqiPX+iS62Pz6ssK9xN5u1+TT+iX4unI9zlf2E b65FliOogU+Bm7lI+x9gBQ+ugj1UIYv2v1176WUj6J+fU1A96+6WrSLyGkYS5c/IQtW7 /ZHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=ME30wi5FbEMTatMXDI5nWsePNAOzOZQQZ0s0JwA8N8s=; b=Iw4yIlEBFXz/gXVRPIy2VqaVIwPQIY7RcWPM/LuPh6UcuEZz8Ky6RbSvdpmUEjGhmO 1kKlaaGcxQCEScIll+gJffGimoiLQiyHEDjhpghhLlsBmsElOjclFpAWGCWN3lFcODeZ UnOuj6edRlb20wGmYFvAoSXzj4KDff61Zno2SfqbweX28lHDxcax71XxrLPOQ/JRbXWx unVhuJIbpUmzUGGVhqgLS8r4argaO7QZXdOab0cN+1wkIrpiAbIzvUuHJNNrsjXgrGyD Esuaw+8slQcxqfyNOpqdJNCiA6Gv4HHFNOzmn6Dm3eayOTLxeVNszhPqIaUqJ6yCYd9c Pl1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvBh6hdjQGMskfbiMIkTtM1umOZwuFqxhgIgoWVYVNpq0q7Re8vxtTRUdP9+mPi9gFtrk17Oct1IHA3Hg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.159.41.193 with SMTP id s59mr9496041uas.41.1469480350088; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.159.55.225 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.159.55.225 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:59:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <77EE71B1-1949-49B5-A7E2-976EAFB60D00@gmail.com> <165b7ba7-6d02-555b-5dbf-5ad4aa252075@lojban.org> <35ca204b-63a1-3100-4be9-952da952f49b@lojban.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:59:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: Curtis Franks To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [llg-board] Officer election X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1305526222923534676==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============1305526222923534676== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114e33a245831605387c0e17 --001a114e33a245831605387c0e17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At this time: =E2=80=A2 I vote for la .lojbab. to be President. =E2=80=A2 I abstain from voting for Vice President. =E2=80=A2 I vote for la mukti for Secretary and Treasurer. =E2=80=A2 I support Karen for Virginia Representative (if she is still a wi= lling option - I may be forgetting something) and abstain from commenting on when voting for/re=C3=A4ppointment to this position is necessary. I like the plan for the trial run. Regardless of my official capacity, I will do my best to assist the community and anyone who requests assistance for the sake thereof. I would like to say that I am not against developing or documenting the language from the inside. Doing so is just not my primary interest, for better or for worse. I do tend to prefer prescriptivism rather than natural evolution/descriptivism for determining how the language 'officially' should work. (And I do think that there should be an official version. This version should be re=C3=A4djusted so as to match well with how the language= is being used in practice, from time to time - but not too frequently: I do not want every text ever written in it to be automatically considered to be equally 'good' or 'official', nor even precedential). This is just an aside, but I think that it is best to be forthright about our philosophies. I do not mean to derail the conversation, though. If anyone has questions about my philosophy, they can ask me separately (privately or publicly, here or elsewhere); otherwise, I recommend judging my choices and mindset silently. On Jul 25, 2016 16:36, "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" < lojbab@lojban.org> wrote: On 7/25/2016 4:27 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote: > I think the status is that I am the only, if reluctant, candidate for > President. Curtis and Karen are both candidates for Vice President. > mukti is the only candidate for Secretary and Treasurer. > Let us vote. Please specify your choices for President, Vice President, Secretary, and Treasurer. There is only one candidate for most of those, but you can always write someone in who isn't running. The usual 3 days (until end of day 7/28). If people wish, they can also vote for me to continue as Virginia Representative, even though that is no longer an officer, per se. (It also is unclear if the VA Representative needs to be reappointed each year, since s/he is not an officer, so I leave that question to you as well.) I'll address further what I would like Karen and Curtis to do once the election is over. It isn't really dependent on the election, but I want to get things moving. I will also address what our agenda for this meeting should be after the election. lojbab _______________________________________________ llg-board mailing list llg-board@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board --001a114e33a245831605387c0e17 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

At this time:
=E2=80=A2 I vote for la .lojbab. to be President.
=E2=80=A2 I abstain from voting for Vice President.
=E2=80=A2 I vote for la mukti for Secretary and Treasurer.
=E2=80=A2 I support Karen for Virginia Representative (if she is still a wi= lling option - I may be forgetting something) and abstain from commenting o= n when voting for/re=C3=A4ppointment to this position is necessary.

I like the plan for the trial run. Regardless of my official= capacity, I will do my best to assist the community and anyone who request= s assistance for the sake thereof.

I would like to say that I am not against developing or docu= menting the language from the inside. Doing so is just not my primary inter= est, for better or for worse. I do tend to prefer prescriptivism rather tha= n natural evolution/descriptivism for determining how the language 'off= icially' should work. (And I do think that there should be an official = version. This version should be re=C3=A4djusted so as to match well with ho= w the language is being used in practice, from time to time - but not too f= requently: I do not want every text ever written in it to be automatically = considered to be equally 'good' or 'official', nor even pre= cedential). This is just an aside, but I think that it is best to be forthr= ight about our philosophies. I do not mean to derail the conversation, thou= gh. If anyone has questions about my philosophy, they can ask me separately= (privately or publicly, here or elsewhere); otherwise, I recommend judging= my choices and mindset silently.


On Jul 25, 2016 1= 6:36, "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
On 7/25/201= 6 4:27 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote:
I think the status is that I am the only, if reluctant, candidate for
President.=C2=A0 Curtis and Karen are both candidates for Vice President. mukti is the only candidate for Secretary and Treasurer.

Let us vote.=C2=A0 Please specify your choices for President, Vice Presiden= t, Secretary, and Treasurer.=C2=A0 There is only one candidate for most of = those, but you can always write someone in who isn't running.=C2=A0 The= usual 3 days (until end of day 7/28).

If people wish, they can also vote for me to continue as Virginia Represent= ative, even though that is no longer an officer, per se. (It also is unclea= r if the VA Representative needs to be reappointed each year, since s/he is= not an officer, so I leave that question to you as well.)

I'll address further what I would like Karen and Curtis to do once the = election is over.=C2=A0 It isn't really dependent on the election, but = I want to get things moving.=C2=A0 I will also address what our agenda for = this meeting should be after the election.


lojbab


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