Received: from localhost ([::1]:34339 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1bRvvQ-0006rk-LH; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 23:33:08 -0700 Received: from mail-lf0-f53.google.com ([209.85.215.53]:35331) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1bRvvI-0006rH-5V for llg-board@lojban.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 23:33:07 -0700 Received: by mail-lf0-f53.google.com with SMTP id f93so143357219lfi.2 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 23:32:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mcVBSX3f92lDHIMrCM6AbIGCchTmpEhERl8FHcmyj60=; b=w8Bz0o01fOITvGqnyPSw6hrCMTSTnFD69KOVyCVKuQKoujmb0CqyzKMVb/UacFQbgn 1j4fDTqzkPKqKw9/3VTRCSgy66rhUudSmMJdZOviJPfk/ehEbYRYkTULI7vT3P/aiZhp Dhn4u9I+iWs+bGHuwMs2ZZtLvuj88AMOQbah+7/oc2nHB2dvUp3iqyo6E2/6uV+HIUdj HpJZXPxeLu47jmjZI5ugrsB1iztwfcOFdzHaNvUgHSfvEXHy8p9LhQYxDRhzOENHi/EF Q5knQj3mac1pqUUXBxb55vffYfOMoM9XM9JlJV8omv9FsBX76o7+B7ALg0c0TPDAjgn3 N3fw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=mcVBSX3f92lDHIMrCM6AbIGCchTmpEhERl8FHcmyj60=; b=kr7nll6goRqNoCyrj8VakxgsFMCydB1cpvBRQHWv5TpOwMqUc4ibGHNDxPXNHpes/J EXeNmbWurYGoqT5wahNvP+h/ASlCKv31rRD+Q6gcFtclSfMA5gQJbWRALMdYicXX1eSd KGk1qtALr8tOTbhVRxTlIo4H12CfgGwEiZ45MHZHVhpMGTwkGR4XJwXbRudA26EZfwPo BA0K8eijuMbKmAvE9Nlekx9wjkNMdFBBnO9nl6LqbYGhsFingQpeTWiDSNrNXRItggUM 7OhkFNg2L73tQVFMqLC5csbWK9GqLPe8Thy3gf8NjZpi8osrTWfP1DRPA71EIUyO2ECT yb+g== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouugZduAelSpZsNf3UXX1E8etPPITp3pIourCWsCP6v5FYdeqRe+L7BuBSuzbv8Udvs8aQR7XHuHRchmkg== X-Received: by 10.25.131.141 with SMTP id f135mr7722125lfd.217.1469514772274; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 23:32:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.17.100 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 23:32:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <77EE71B1-1949-49B5-A7E2-976EAFB60D00@gmail.com> <165b7ba7-6d02-555b-5dbf-5ad4aa252075@lojban.org> <35ca204b-63a1-3100-4be9-952da952f49b@lojban.org> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 09:32:12 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [llg-board] Officer election X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4308342505773512138==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============4308342505773512138== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113e5634fe64c70538841187 --001a113e5634fe64c70538841187 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2016-07-25 23:59 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks : > At this time: > =E2=80=A2 I vote for la .lojbab. to be President. > =E2=80=A2 I abstain from voting for Vice President. > =E2=80=A2 I vote for la mukti for Secretary and Treasurer. > =E2=80=A2 I support Karen for Virginia Representative (if she is still a = willing > option - I may be forgetting something) and abstain from commenting on wh= en > voting for/re=C3=A4ppointment to this position is necessary. > I support this choice (I hope this won't stop Curtis from helping LLG further :) ). > I like the plan for the trial run. Regardless of my official capacity, I > will do my best to assist the community and anyone who requests assistanc= e > for the sake thereof. > > I would like to say that I am not against developing or documenting the > language from the inside. Doing so is just not my primary interest, for > better or for worse. I do tend to prefer prescriptivism rather than natur= al > evolution/descriptivism for determining how the language 'officially' > should work. (And I do think that there should be an official version. Th= is > version should be re=C3=A4djusted so as to match well with how the langua= ge is > being used in practice, from time to time - but not too frequently: I do > not want every text ever written in it to be automatically considered to = be > equally 'good' or 'official', nor even precedential). This is just an > aside, but I think that it is best to be forthright about our philosophie= s. > I do not mean to derail the conversation, though. If anyone has questions > about my philosophy, they can ask me separately (privately or publicly, > here or elsewhere); otherwise, I recommend judging my choices and mindset > silently. > > On Jul 25, 2016 16:36, "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" < > lojbab@lojban.org> wrote: > > On 7/25/2016 4:27 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote: > >> I think the status is that I am the only, if reluctant, candidate for >> President. Curtis and Karen are both candidates for Vice President. >> mukti is the only candidate for Secretary and Treasurer. >> > > Let us vote. Please specify your choices for President, Vice President, > Secretary, and Treasurer. There is only one candidate for most of those, > but you can always write someone in who isn't running. The usual 3 days > (until end of day 7/28). > > If people wish, they can also vote for me to continue as Virginia > Representative, even though that is no longer an officer, per se. (It als= o > is unclear if the VA Representative needs to be reappointed each year, > since s/he is not an officer, so I leave that question to you as well.) > > I'll address further what I would like Karen and Curtis to do once the > election is over. It isn't really dependent on the election, but I want = to > get things moving. I will also address what our agenda for this meeting > should be after the election. > > > lojbab > > > _______________________________________________ > llg-board mailing list > llg-board@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board > > > > _______________________________________________ > llg-board mailing list > llg-board@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board > > --001a113e5634fe64c70538841187 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2016-07-25 23:59 GMT+03:00 Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gma= il.com>:

At = this time:
=E2=80=A2 I vote for la .lojbab. to be President.
=E2=80=A2 I abstain from voting for Vice President.
=E2=80=A2 I vote for la mukti for Secretary and Treasurer.
=E2=80=A2 I support Karen for Virginia Representative (if she is still a wi= lling option - I may be forgetting something) and abstain from commenting o= n when voting for/re=C3=A4ppointment to this position is necessary.


I support this choice (I hope this won't s= top Curtis from helping LLG further :) ).
=C2=A0

I like the plan for the trial run. Regardless of my official= capacity, I will do my best to assist the community and anyone who request= s assistance for the sake thereof.

I would like to say that I am not against developing or docu= menting the language from the inside. Doing so is just not my primary inter= est, for better or for worse. I do tend to prefer prescriptivism rather tha= n natural evolution/descriptivism for determining how the language 'off= icially' should work. (And I do think that there should be an official = version. This version should be re=C3=A4djusted so as to match well with ho= w the language is being used in practice, from time to time - but not too f= requently: I do not want every text ever written in it to be automatically = considered to be equally 'good' or 'official', nor even pre= cedential). This is just an aside, but I think that it is best to be forthr= ight about our philosophies. I do not mean to derail the conversation, thou= gh. If anyone has questions about my philosophy, they can ask me separately= (privately or publicly, here or elsewhere); otherwise, I recommend judging= my choices and mindset silently.


On Jul 25, 2016 1= 6:36, "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" <lojbab@lojban.org> w= rote:
On 7/25/2016 4:27 PM, Bob LeChe= valier, President and Founder - LLG wrote:
I think the status is that I am the only, if reluctant, candidate for
President.=C2=A0 Curtis and Karen are both candidates for Vice President. mukti is the only candidate for Secretary and Treasurer.

Let us vote.=C2=A0 Please specify your choices for President, Vice Presiden= t, Secretary, and Treasurer.=C2=A0 There is only one candidate for most of = those, but you can always write someone in who isn't running.=C2=A0 The= usual 3 days (until end of day 7/28).

If people wish, they can also vote for me to continue as Virginia Represent= ative, even though that is no longer an officer, per se. (It also is unclea= r if the VA Representative needs to be reappointed each year, since s/he is= not an officer, so I leave that question to you as well.)

I'll address further what I would like Karen and Curtis to do once the = election is over.=C2=A0 It isn't really dependent on the election, but = I want to get things moving.=C2=A0 I will also address what our agenda for = this meeting should be after the election.


lojbab


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