Received: from localhost ([::1]:33855 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1bmbAB-0001Nz-58; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 23:37:47 -0700 Received: from mail-lf0-f48.google.com ([209.85.215.48]:35968) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1bmbA5-0001MN-7y for llg-board@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 23:37:45 -0700 Received: by mail-lf0-f48.google.com with SMTP id g62so31905035lfe.3 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 23:37:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=/UYsWrtRPUygs2FIVurnLu4DDjKGbdkbRFEpV/lkly4=; b=QfLkCFt94LGlME0aAV8Q/0DCZi9/XbFnid1JoLp4RkvKp7h0/ZnevWiPYenOcJ6R6E J3GpHtvpnTpxbYawpuNTRYEikisuB48IrELqwxML5glWl05k+Iqmg4Eckr0pyL07LEnA XVRUdKfpvtTQ4dM2pdIO8+W4Wq5QrxXqTxhqEjGDdVqVG+An+a0hodBmyklQ6aATA7Fc 33DTeBuxlRjyWLEU8NNw8MM3clCz1J76tF6EKg41Vytxx0Uh95pEiYHb8LXaQNRo6KcQ Ln8H/gqazWjbRQYK3T1HiEJVQd4C3yRxar//uJ4KF5FWmt7v5x24EPA/F0UFlWsugfeu ZrVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=/UYsWrtRPUygs2FIVurnLu4DDjKGbdkbRFEpV/lkly4=; b=TG3D+JF26gV5MjOwfaGd17DNjf0FALurwKZW1sGrdg6kAQWNn/KHTfd0aNAFDqvqQc pXtXBAT0ylNxyuFTh2lgLY/hLFG1f51PoqHIhvyi5iSdNNzB26re2cKV/GrmSiy8npdO EKU47DDzrrQwPI5xebmq2hL4czl7WI43XRvexWN0xu5SrthgwXQXSB7p8oDcDFjF4FEk EeMCDlMXD5MoQR0kZpHSq9PErSq8EktHQLytdJwhg4LUE6Whj/l6jUPj+EUQo0k2QS0E fIDjIBywgmOj6kxw6HrrbLvVqvL1+i0yOqHMakApG93yAqoJYQvbGDv9cIXZ6YPtW97I u0cQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwNy7Rj1EFrnwAMOIMzW5GgDtuBq68GKksqffyJWTHKyYrT+XwZnadXjci9UtiVIpsUKfE1KBj832ngTyg== X-Received: by 10.25.34.85 with SMTP id i82mr1070895lfi.141.1474439853859; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 23:37:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.23.206 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 23:36:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <78461A3E-B0CC-44D6-8DC1-C40FBB85E04B@gmail.com> References: <78461A3E-B0CC-44D6-8DC1-C40FBB85E04B@gmail.com> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:36:53 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [llg-board] Planning the 2016 Annual Meeting X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3707705145077301227==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============3707705145077301227== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113ab412bb6af0053cfec79d --001a113ab412bb6af0053cfec79d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2016-09-20 23:07 GMT+03:00 Riley Martinez-Lynch : > coi jbopre > > I would like to start a discussion about how and when to hold the 2016 > annual meeting of the members. I=E2=80=99m bringing the question first to= the > board, since we=E2=80=99re empowered to take action on this question, but= would > also be glad to bring it to the members list if the sense of the board is > that we would benefit from wider discussion before taking action. > > Given the drawn-out nature of the last meeting, I am renewing my call to > change the way that we conduct the business of the meeting. I would like = to > suggest that we draw up the agenda for the meeting well in advance so tha= t > people have a chance to debate any action items before the meeting starts= . > > If we do this, I am confident we can conduct the business of the meeting > in a few hours over IRC or Slack. I suggest IRC. Slack and similar things are not for "devoted" members but rather for newcomers, they are polite tricks to make people stick to Lojban channels/groups. I would like to see the meeting scheduled in such a way to maximize > convenience to the members. I think we should propose several times and > poll the membership to decide which time. > > If it turns out that the time chosen isn=E2=80=99t possible for any membe= r, I > would be glad to personally follow up with that person to ensure that the= y > have a proxy to represent their positions. Since the meeting would be > focused on business rather than debate, what they would be proxying would > be mostly limited to formalities: The casting of votes on issues identifi= ed > in advance. > > If we start this conversation now, I expect we can arrive at an agenda by > early November, which would allow us to both start and finish the meeting > in the appropriate calendar year. > > Please let me know your thoughts: > > 1. What do you think about front-loading the debate on the agenda and > executing business separately? > Nothing. I don't oppose this suggestion. > 2. What days or times do you think might allow the most members to > participate in a real time meeting? > Might be Saturday/Sunday but many people might not know how busy they will be in a few months when the meeting will take place. I think most of us can now only talk in terms of probabilities that are not high. > 3. What would you like to see on the agenda for the upcoming meeting? > What other prepared. I only can report the de facto status of issues and branches of lo jbokulnu. > > Thank you! > > =E2=80=94Riley no=E2=80=99u la mukti > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > llg-board mailing list > llg-board@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board > --001a113ab412bb6af0053cfec79d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2016-09-20 23:07 GMT+03:00 Riley Martinez-Lynch <<= a href=3D"mailto:shunpiker@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">shunpiker@gmail.com= >:
coi jbopre

I would like to start a discussion about how and when to hold the 2016 annu= al meeting of the members. I=E2=80=99m bringing the question first to the b= oard, since we=E2=80=99re empowered to take action on this question, but wo= uld also be glad to bring it to the members list if the sense of the board = is that we would benefit from wider discussion before taking action.

Given the drawn-out nature of the last meeting, I am renewing my call to ch= ange the way that we conduct the business of the meeting. I would like to s= uggest that we draw up the agenda for the meeting well in advance so that p= eople have a chance to debate any action items before the meeting starts.
If we do this, I am confident we can conduct the business of the meeting in= a few hours over IRC or Slack.

I suggest I= RC. Slack and similar things are not for "devoted" members but ra= ther for newcomers, they are polite tricks to make people stick to Lojban c= hannels/groups.



I would like to see the meeting scheduled in such a = way to maximize convenience to the members. I think we should propose sever= al times and poll the membership to decide which time.

If it turns out that the time chosen isn=E2=80=99t possible for any member,= I would be glad to personally follow up with that person to ensure that th= ey have a proxy to represent their positions. Since the meeting would be fo= cused on business rather than debate, what they would be proxying would be = mostly limited to formalities: The casting of votes on issues identified in= advance.

If we start this conversation now, I expect we can arrive at an agenda by e= arly November, which would allow us to both start and finish the meeting in= the appropriate calendar year.

Please let me know your thoughts:

1. What do you think about front-loading the debate on the agenda and execu= ting business separately?

Nothing. I do= n't oppose this suggestion.
=C2=A0
2. What days or times do you think might allow the most members to particip= ate in a real time meeting?

Might be Sa= turday/Sunday but many people might not know how busy they will be in a few= months when the meeting will take place. I think most of us can now only t= alk in terms of probabilities that are not high.

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3. What would you like to see on the agenda for the upcoming meeting?

What other prepared. I only can report the d= e facto status of issues and branches of lo jbokulnu.
=C2=A0

Thank you!

=E2=80=94Riley no=E2=80=99u la mukti






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