Received: from localhost ([::1]:60500 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cH4Gt-0004t2-FX; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:46:39 -0800 Received: from mail-vk0-f48.google.com ([209.85.213.48]:36001) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cH4Gn-0004sf-4k for llg-board@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:46:37 -0800 Received: by mail-vk0-f48.google.com with SMTP id p9so16171568vkd.3 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:46:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=R5Se+2Fz4/RhqI2RRm3YA/bTXc38eyB9d5Vdf2N2Fvs=; b=CZuo3ouEtMhy6eN4etVIg2rP/YdsnccCY/L/L7spiEbmW3vy0o/DzIDeckUf1Oyg8d lQgGNqdghMYdk8a7xpl/SkkmE+m1XiojXq7u72A7kseDOEfIuuDWzpCWPlai38cpoDlm Y+/97qFVsoooewGdmOWyp5DT9hlbslYPADI+qFpjYkuUFHqUPsUlbtjl+csMv2gpFdNO wGQJxxkmF8c1Z2zJxvcoNSt14ZN7VTIl9Re0hn8f8NNQw/2YjL/s7iQ/pyQb+kc7Vvk1 V98k2YVcSR50QqyRbBY5FaTtB5xlNYTQ0A6hYgV3OJVLJnSM+piPcVD7t9q7U1ioWDKh wy9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=R5Se+2Fz4/RhqI2RRm3YA/bTXc38eyB9d5Vdf2N2Fvs=; b=sbdZzPG+iDEf4uC1/+gI7utVyyWL7asBNANHc499oOS+E3aLXLRKVbFKwiyyuOonYz aT7M44Wwe5POouN1wvzSUt9RssJe0N/saMUFChzN+EbRcC36fqRgovIYsKfB5Mavmhsj +3Tmk4Rxh/Ck8+gyVTRUFIy1hrS7OtZXRnUvSIu2CBHshLHXwsJPLPBguW1EbAUUbF9w gbPgTYmZZMJG+GRyUHdL7WNZtrn8mcVULY1AskamyDJJE/oWB/B7Mj6StYgL29644I4o vKA1JtvZuB0oJhlDkLnpBFg1onHr9U4EetzQcb1AWvJ/vOu4AheMSZwlpnl8bM8i2FB9 dmOw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01cC22IqIXbclwWdUP4pj8k5+jLYmaVE0UAYagRFW8EXCsybt6gXJ1lTEQuGR0WjQt++GBeLsCv4UfK1A== X-Received: by 10.176.86.89 with SMTP id z25mr87692074uaa.66.1481701586545; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:46:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.83.70 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.176.83.70 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:46:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Curtis Franks Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 02:46:25 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [llg-board] Planning the 2016 Annual Meeting X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9020083833870406093==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============9020083833870406093== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f403045df27abab086054399888d --f403045df27abab086054399888d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I second. On Dec 13, 2016 17:47, "Riley Martinez-Lynch" wrote: > > > It isn't clear that anything has been decided, and we have not announce= d > anything to the members. Scheduling the meeting to start during the > holiday season is counter to Riley's preference to maximize convenience t= o > members. Thus it looks like we won't be starting a 2016 annual meeting > anytime during 2016. The 2015 meeting lasting until June 2016 was bad > enough. > > > > I will suggest that we simply forgo having a meeting called the "2016 > annual meeting". It can't be any worse than the handwave that we approve= d > for the corporate filing, and if we start a 2017 meeting early in the yea= r > and use at least some of Riley's suggestions to speed things up, we might > finish the annual meeting less than a year after finishing the prior > meeting, even while technically skipping a year. > > > > Then we need to actually decide what the "2017 meeting" will be and whe= n > it will start, and then get announcements out asking for agenda > items/motions etc. And then we can accomplish what Riley thought would b= e > done a month ago. > > > > We need an actual motion to decide, and maybe more than one. > > I would like to propose that we proceed with a pro-forma members meeting > to satisfy the requirements for 2016: That we convene this meeting right > away, and conduct as little business as possible, in order to bring thing= s > to a speedy conclusion. Meaningful business can be tabled to the 2017 > meeting, which I would recommend that we schedule in advance for May or > June. > > I ask for a second that we convene the 2016 meeting on these terms, and > that we organize the meeting in such a way to bring the meeting to a clos= e > by the end of the calendar year. > > =E2=80=94Riley. > > . > _______________________________________________ > llg-board mailing list > llg-board@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board > --f403045df27abab086054399888d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I second.

On Dec 13, 2016 17:47, "Riley Martinez-Lynch" &l= t;shunpiker@gmail.com> wrote:=

> It isn't clear that anything has been decided, and we have not ann= ounced anything to the members.=C2=A0 Scheduling the meeting to start durin= g the holiday season is counter to Riley's preference to maximize conve= nience to members.=C2=A0 Thus it looks like we won't be starting a 2016= annual meeting anytime during 2016.=C2=A0 The 2015 meeting lasting until J= une 2016 was bad enough.
>
> I will suggest that we simply forgo having a meeting called the "= 2016 annual meeting".=C2=A0 It can't be any worse than the handwav= e that we approved for the corporate filing, and if we start a 2017 meeting= early in the year and use at least some of Riley's suggestions to spee= d things up, we might finish the annual meeting less than a year after fini= shing the prior meeting, even while technically skipping a year.
>
> Then we need to actually decide what the "2017 meeting" will= be and when it will start, and then get announcements out asking for agend= a items/motions etc.=C2=A0 And then we can accomplish what Riley thought wo= uld be done a month ago.
>
> We need an actual motion to decide, and maybe more than one.

I would like to propose that we proceed with a pro-forma members meeting to= satisfy the requirements for 2016: That we convene this meeting right away= , and conduct as little business as possible, in order to bring things to a= speedy conclusion. Meaningful business can be tabled to the 2017 meeting, = which I would recommend that we schedule in advance for May or June.

I ask for a second that we convene the 2016 meeting on these terms, and tha= t we organize the meeting in such a way to bring the meeting to a close by = the end of the calendar year.

=E2=80=94Riley.

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