Received: from localhost ([::1]:41170 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1d8XtI-00035E-0o; Wed, 10 May 2017 13:07:20 -0700 Received: from mail-io0-f182.google.com ([209.85.223.182]:34909) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1d8XtF-000357-AA for llg-board@lojban.org; Wed, 10 May 2017 13:07:18 -0700 Received: by mail-io0-f182.google.com with SMTP id f102so8854447ioi.2 for ; Wed, 10 May 2017 13:07:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=TrPziBM+2gUT1bo/S6F4xyFEPrXiruEWnfRbunGySFc=; b=fqAtJuVhkmpspB0rVpoV8xACN2tjl4hbX618BLVUz/FhHgB8hcvKRoaXzfzCkvepvA pz6oSSQiykmVtzomp3Pz6F8SPALaCD5+dqHC4iHw9hbJd8aU73rVe3ml7cT1LWVN87iv a3yN+5l22Buf/Dd+N++kxt6YIzWgT5ZmxXlMP8i6xYeA1woeTzjyJagnQm2PWL0UqaC0 /WvDYyM87nGaX66DgSMpu65nG9Y6qj0B11YqaimNB6JDEltA7wt6DeDv2B7Co5UQiLoQ 9kQeKfr+LUfSndiSer3JQ80pSKwIWeL1h8z7A7Ml7DTG2pna+y2BmskCEDOao4/78YFK jz3A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=TrPziBM+2gUT1bo/S6F4xyFEPrXiruEWnfRbunGySFc=; b=V1l1FZURBX2QVJswFtsJHhrpT/zWioMcxbg6EPq217JS4g+q6H2CwDTVhBnDHC88r0 WHY3Hdib6XSawmh3Ub4hFuugVxQRGxuIm1IxViJC1dfBVJKm2hkAPBaZb5p05LLUuZ60 DnIVCWWyp/6x/lUYUA8RrtUo2QlL98mJOI2YX8TVcCk4uyb/2f6lNzYNh3himqopPv// t2tIUTgu5z9zwxhlSquSoTBpi682bWIdckazKousV6Y9bRQGWmdGpOwQHWdep2NJbJSJ FDRTtMRfzDWC3KiaaeXEHBLkdkoPHSSo9PFMnqPLgGTi9K6x4hbKa9T8LMIxSqAFSWLP zGfw== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcCW7/araxmYcZnNWdIsPIqgoPbeYPnDmkdyoby4X0YUoiPRcc8Q JJMTR/jiITSKrptTEqzKbMuKt70XPQ== X-Received: by 10.107.148.210 with SMTP id w201mr5167339iod.133.1494446829659; Wed, 10 May 2017 13:07:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.38.2 with HTTP; Wed, 10 May 2017 13:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.2 with HTTP; Wed, 10 May 2017 13:07:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <07e037b7-c069-5754-f6bf-4de87aad9e8f@lojban.org> References: <07e037b7-c069-5754-f6bf-4de87aad9e8f@lojban.org> From: Ali Sajid Imami Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 01:07:09 +0500 Message-ID: To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-Spam_score: -4.8 X-Spam_score_int: -47 X-Spam_bar: ---- Subject: Re: [llg-board] "New" Board Meeting X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1502600625624926497==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============1502600625624926497== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113fd4026b0480054f310400 --001a113fd4026b0480054f310400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am present! I will respond regarding the other matters soon, as the agenda comes up. On May 11, 2017 01:03, "Bob LeChevalier" wrote: > The 2016 annual meeting having concluded, the new Board is exactly the > same as the old Board. > > While we could effectively just continue the old meeting, I'm going to > call a new meeting to order. mukti may wish to produce real minutes for > the last years' meeting, and that implies a stopping point. > > So all Board members, please respond with an indication of your presence > at the meeting. > > ------------------ > > To fulfill Karen's motion from the annual meeting, we ought to have new > officers in place before the end of the month. > > So we can speed things up if people indicate their ideas on the officers > for this "year" (which in fact will only be a couple of months if the 2017 > meeting starts soon and doesn't last for half a year). The election of > officers is of course the first order of business. > > If mukti is able to give a more coherent account of finances and book > sales, that would also be helpful. LLG seems to be getting more than $100 > per month income from book sales, but I don't know what we are making per > book or how many books are being sold, since we don't get monthly reports > any more from Lightning Source (and never did get them from amazon.com) > ------------------------- > > I am present, of course. > > I suspect that no one besides mukti is either willing or able to do the > jobs of Secretary and Treasurer. (Did we actually separate those two > offices, or was that merely a proposal?). > > Assuming that she is willing, I think that Karen should take over as > President. She did a better job than I did of keeping track of what had > been said during the meeting regarding how to conduct the next meeting, and > seems to have ideas on how that next meeting should be conducted. In any > event, she presumably knows what she wants to happen at the beginning of > next month to prepare for next meeting. > > I'm not sure I know how to conduct the meeting much better than I have, > given my prejudices, and my apparent inability these days to keep focused > on matters Lojbanic for the length of time needed to finish a meeting. And > I think we need to do better in order to reinstill a sense of activity and > competence in the organization (as opposed to the competence of many > individual Lojbanists in the language). > > (I could probably do just fine if we were still meeting at my house or at > a specific time on IRC, both modes that we utilized up till sometime after > 2000, but the last year has shown me that I'm just not keeping myself > together week after week. And I doubt that it is just my health that is > causing this, though Nora and I both are experiencing our share of "senior > moments" when our memories let us down.) > > I'd probably accept being drafted for another "year", but I don't think > that would be the best option. Better would be to have me as Vice > President, ready to step up if the President somehow can't do the job but > presuming that s/he really can. But I'm not even sure that I would be the > best choice for VP given the last couple of years. > > lojbab > > _______________________________________________ > llg-board mailing list > llg-board@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board > --001a113fd4026b0480054f310400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am present!
I will respond regarding t= he other matters soon, as the agenda comes up.

On May 11, 2017 01:03, "Bob L= eChevalier" <lojbab@lojban.org= > wrote:
The = 2016 annual meeting having concluded, the new Board is exactly the same as = the old Board.

While we could effectively just continue the old meeting, I'm going to = call a new meeting to order.=C2=A0 mukti may wish to produce real minutes f= or the last years' meeting, and that implies a stopping point.

So all Board members, please respond with an indication of your presence at= the meeting.

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To fulfill Karen's motion from the annual meeting, we ought to have new= officers in place before the end of the month.

So we can speed things up if people indicate their ideas on the officers fo= r this "year" (which in fact will only be a couple of months if t= he 2017 meeting starts soon and doesn't last for half a year).=C2=A0 Th= e election of officers is of course the first order of business.

If mukti is able to give a more coherent account of finances and book sales= , that would also be helpful.=C2=A0 LLG seems to be getting more than $100 = per month income from book sales, but I don't know what we are making p= er book or how many books are being sold, since we don't get monthly re= ports any more from Lightning Source (and never did get them from amazon.com)=
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I am present, of course.

I suspect that no one besides mukti is either willing or able to do the job= s of Secretary and Treasurer.=C2=A0 (Did we actually separate those two off= ices, or was that merely a proposal?).

Assuming that she is willing, I think that Karen should take over as Presid= ent.=C2=A0 She did a better job than I did of keeping track of what had bee= n said during the meeting regarding how to conduct the next meeting, and se= ems to have ideas on how that next meeting should be conducted. In any even= t, she presumably knows what she wants to happen at the beginning of next m= onth to prepare for next meeting.

I'm not sure I know how to conduct the meeting much better than I have,= given my prejudices, and my apparent inability these days to keep focused = on matters Lojbanic for the length of time needed to finish a meeting.=C2= =A0 And I think we need to do better in order to reinstill a sense of activ= ity and competence in the organization (as opposed to the competence of man= y individual Lojbanists in the language).

(I could probably do just fine if we were still meeting at my house or at a= specific time on IRC, both modes that we utilized up till sometime after 2= 000, but the last year has shown me that I'm just not keeping myself to= gether week after week.=C2=A0 And I doubt that it is just my health that is= causing this, though Nora and I both are experiencing our share of "s= enior moments" when our memories let us down.)

I'd probably accept being drafted for another "year", but I d= on't think that would be the best option.=C2=A0 Better would be to have= me as Vice President, ready to step up if the President somehow can't = do the job but presuming that s/he really can.=C2=A0 But I'm not even s= ure that I would be the best choice for VP given the last couple of years.<= br>
lojbab

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