Received: from localhost ([::1]:47384 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1d8ehH-0005HP-Np; Wed, 10 May 2017 20:23:23 -0700 Received: from mail-ua0-f179.google.com ([209.85.217.179]:34263) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1d8ehF-0005GY-N9 for llg-board@lojban.org; Wed, 10 May 2017 20:23:22 -0700 Received: by mail-ua0-f179.google.com with SMTP id g49so16364730uaa.1 for ; Wed, 10 May 2017 20:23:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0pt6SaEov4d2UiNg7d0y8SRLtmJKm8IK2Xi7T/n5a5U=; b=LfHWbDrcqsRUDvzKtcV1Q7cJ2bLynim8HBLiwzZ+bX8WwgZ1LHG+S0co1/8b/xF5+W RZkkyU8PFmxKRj2JhcOaXOr9ff9EghJYeYfTKM5zXvfaZceDh9QbbuhtbcsqBjk+/07l cj4v0tL1OMNwFMBCY30eJkn9ITFFW71KALfYDYocKeZcf9n8enBsVFx5fySK6ivRN3rd AJcN82HGKJ8ZXRR7YaMmzq34Gwfq3f8+Il27fh+ccc/kdsNweE3433Iddaqc/G3uSr+8 132DmuVqQGIr1lnogx7ZqcBy9M5rVSN4N6986qCdaZ3FdNviTZjw6ze5R2VsK5xXzv4w JjBg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=0pt6SaEov4d2UiNg7d0y8SRLtmJKm8IK2Xi7T/n5a5U=; b=AaW9GzAVY/nQDIN+jdqW7X19heFvmXC2z3cM7Vfn969nGQI/mYI9p4GWAUYujY1JDq 2p7ljXSBp3obJhn9kJqKmagEKakcKpBqk/1OHdOH4jkNDcx4rmVXQiMymmUDjCjGSkGB 2tR6srov+4oMYmbdePZ49UZlLSnwU0L4adysnWlXJ9axQX16O/WDam68ixorXS4Xn5w9 iT+sXw1GDowrK6TFCAzp3skPHT5F1byh07LfpO8EZRjLoCcI0sUBLFvBCiv+7AX67MyT hEq5rOxF8uOjugam2VLgTr1h/gm8d6kyQqOCK+kBpBtHMYJY+rP/e1iz0thlgXsbgxjD fxcA== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcAERc8lMYk4FpF+3Jau76kKcIH+mQiLe5+/yQtV4erOqDoVK8Fm 7nxF9N7IRcKImVOT2NAK2SG/ec40ow== X-Received: by 10.176.90.211 with SMTP id x19mr4798180uae.153.1494472995127; Wed, 10 May 2017 20:23:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.77.193 with HTTP; Wed, 10 May 2017 20:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.176.77.193 with HTTP; Wed, 10 May 2017 20:23:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <07e037b7-c069-5754-f6bf-4de87aad9e8f@lojban.org> From: Curtis Franks Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 23:23:14 -0400 Message-ID: To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [llg-board] "New" Board Meeting X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8494972504282254056==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============8494972504282254056== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f403045f85ba00459f054f371c73 --f403045f85ba00459f054f371c73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I too am present. On May 10, 2017 16:03, "Bob LeChevalier" wrote: The 2016 annual meeting having concluded, the new Board is exactly the same as the old Board. While we could effectively just continue the old meeting, I'm going to call a new meeting to order. mukti may wish to produce real minutes for the last years' meeting, and that implies a stopping point. So all Board members, please respond with an indication of your presence at the meeting. ------------------ To fulfill Karen's motion from the annual meeting, we ought to have new officers in place before the end of the month. So we can speed things up if people indicate their ideas on the officers for this "year" (which in fact will only be a couple of months if the 2017 meeting starts soon and doesn't last for half a year). The election of officers is of course the first order of business. If mukti is able to give a more coherent account of finances and book sales, that would also be helpful. LLG seems to be getting more than $100 per month income from book sales, but I don't know what we are making per book or how many books are being sold, since we don't get monthly reports any more from Lightning Source (and never did get them from amazon.com) ------------------------- I am present, of course. I suspect that no one besides mukti is either willing or able to do the jobs of Secretary and Treasurer. (Did we actually separate those two offices, or was that merely a proposal?). Assuming that she is willing, I think that Karen should take over as President. She did a better job than I did of keeping track of what had been said during the meeting regarding how to conduct the next meeting, and seems to have ideas on how that next meeting should be conducted. In any event, she presumably knows what she wants to happen at the beginning of next month to prepare for next meeting. I'm not sure I know how to conduct the meeting much better than I have, given my prejudices, and my apparent inability these days to keep focused on matters Lojbanic for the length of time needed to finish a meeting. And I think we need to do better in order to reinstill a sense of activity and competence in the organization (as opposed to the competence of many individual Lojbanists in the language). (I could probably do just fine if we were still meeting at my house or at a specific time on IRC, both modes that we utilized up till sometime after 2000, but the last year has shown me that I'm just not keeping myself together week after week. And I doubt that it is just my health that is causing this, though Nora and I both are experiencing our share of "senior moments" when our memories let us down.) I'd probably accept being drafted for another "year", but I don't think that would be the best option. Better would be to have me as Vice President, ready to step up if the President somehow can't do the job but presuming that s/he really can. But I'm not even sure that I would be the best choice for VP given the last couple of years. lojbab _______________________________________________ llg-board mailing list llg-board@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board --f403045f85ba00459f054f371c73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I too am present.

On May 10, 2017 16:03, "Bob LeChevalier" = <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
The 2016 annual meeting hav= ing concluded, the new Board is exactly the same as the old Board.

While we could effectively just continue the old meeting, I'm going to = call a new meeting to order.=C2=A0 mukti may wish to produce real minutes f= or the last years' meeting, and that implies a stopping point.

So all Board members, please respond with an indication of your presence at= the meeting.

------------------

To fulfill Karen's motion from the annual meeting, we ought to have new= officers in place before the end of the month.

So we can speed things up if people indicate their ideas on the officers fo= r this "year" (which in fact will only be a couple of months if t= he 2017 meeting starts soon and doesn't last for half a year).=C2=A0 Th= e election of officers is of course the first order of business.

If mukti is able to give a more coherent account of finances and book sales= , that would also be helpful.=C2=A0 LLG seems to be getting more than $100 = per month income from book sales, but I don't know what we are making p= er book or how many books are being sold, since we don't get monthly re= ports any more from Lightning Source (and never did get them from amazon.com)=
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I am present, of course.

I suspect that no one besides mukti is either willing or able to do the job= s of Secretary and Treasurer.=C2=A0 (Did we actually separate those two off= ices, or was that merely a proposal?).

Assuming that she is willing, I think that Karen should take over as Presid= ent.=C2=A0 She did a better job than I did of keeping track of what had bee= n said during the meeting regarding how to conduct the next meeting, and se= ems to have ideas on how that next meeting should be conducted. In any even= t, she presumably knows what she wants to happen at the beginning of next m= onth to prepare for next meeting.

I'm not sure I know how to conduct the meeting much better than I have,= given my prejudices, and my apparent inability these days to keep focused = on matters Lojbanic for the length of time needed to finish a meeting.=C2= =A0 And I think we need to do better in order to reinstill a sense of activ= ity and competence in the organization (as opposed to the competence of man= y individual Lojbanists in the language).

(I could probably do just fine if we were still meeting at my house or at a= specific time on IRC, both modes that we utilized up till sometime after 2= 000, but the last year has shown me that I'm just not keeping myself to= gether week after week.=C2=A0 And I doubt that it is just my health that is= causing this, though Nora and I both are experiencing our share of "s= enior moments" when our memories let us down.)

I'd probably accept being drafted for another "year", but I d= on't think that would be the best option.=C2=A0 Better would be to have= me as Vice President, ready to step up if the President somehow can't = do the job but presuming that s/he really can.=C2=A0 But I'm not even s= ure that I would be the best choice for VP given the last couple of years.<= br>
lojbab

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