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From: Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 09:03:20 +0300
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2017-05-10 23:03 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>:

> The 2016 annual meeting having concluded, the new Board is exactly the
> same as the old Board.
>
> While we could effectively just continue the old meeting, I'm going to
> call a new meeting to order.  mukti may wish to produce real minutes for
> the last years' meeting, and that implies a stopping point.
>
> So all Board members, please respond with an indication of your presence
> at the meeting.
>

I am present.


>
> ------------------
>
> To fulfill Karen's motion from the annual meeting, we ought to have new
> officers in place before the end of the month.
>
> So we can speed things up if people indicate their ideas on the officers
> for this "year" (which in fact will only be a couple of months if the 2017
> meeting starts soon and doesn't last for half a year).  The election of
> officers is of course the first order of business.
>
> If mukti is able to give a more coherent account of finances and book
> sales, that would also be helpful.  LLG seems to be getting more than $100
> per month income from book sales, but I don't know what we are making per
> book or how many books are being sold, since we don't get monthly reports
> any more from Lightning Source (and never did get them from amazon.com)
>

Someone seriously needs to consider other options to reduce the cost of CLL
being sold. Lulu, more delving into the mechanics of print-on-demand
facilities, what else?


> -------------------------
>
> I am present, of course.
>
> I suspect that no one besides mukti is either willing or able to do the
> jobs of Secretary and Treasurer.  (Did we actually separate those two
> offices, or was that merely a proposal?).
>
> Assuming that she is willing, I think that Karen should take over as
> President.  She did a better job than I did of keeping track of what had
> been said during the meeting regarding how to conduct the next meeting, and
> seems to have ideas on how that next meeting should be conducted. In any
> event, she presumably knows what she wants to happen at the beginning of
> next month to prepare for next meeting.
>
> I'm not sure I know how to conduct the meeting much better than I have,
> given my prejudices, and my apparent inability these days to keep focused
> on matters Lojbanic for the length of time needed to finish a meeting.  And
> I think we need to do better in order to reinstill a sense of activity and
> competence in the organization (as opposed to the competence of many
> individual Lojbanists in the language).
>
> (I could probably do just fine if we were still meeting at my house or at
> a specific time on IRC, both modes that we utilized up till sometime after
> 2000, but the last year has shown me that I'm just not keeping myself
> together week after week.  And I doubt that it is just my health that is
> causing this, though Nora and I both are experiencing our share of "senior
> moments" when our memories let us down.)
>
> I'd probably accept being drafted for another "year", but I don't think
> that would be the best option.  Better would be to have me as Vice
> President, ready to step up if the President somehow can't do the job but
> presuming that s/he really can.  But I'm not even sure that I would be the
> best choice for VP given the last couple of years.
>

I vote for Karen being the President.
And I would like more people eligible for running LLG and LLG board
meetings in case the President is temporarily unavailable (e.g. vacation).
Probably, this would require some bylaws to be changed?


>
> lojbab
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2017-05-10 23:03 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:lojbab@lojban.org" target=3D"_blank">lojbab@lojban.org</a>&gt;<=
/span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The 2016 annual meeting having co=
ncluded, the new Board is exactly the same as the old Board.<br>
<br>
While we could effectively just continue the old meeting, I&#39;m going to =
call a new meeting to order.=C2=A0 mukti may wish to produce real minutes f=
or the last years&#39; meeting, and that implies a stopping point.<br>
<br>
So all Board members, please respond with an indication of your presence at=
 the meeting.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am present.</div><div>=
=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
------------------<br>
<br>
To fulfill Karen&#39;s motion from the annual meeting, we ought to have new=
 officers in place before the end of the month.<br>
<br>
So we can speed things up if people indicate their ideas on the officers fo=
r this &quot;year&quot; (which in fact will only be a couple of months if t=
he 2017 meeting starts soon and doesn&#39;t last for half a year).=C2=A0 Th=
e election of officers is of course the first order of business.<br>
<br>
If mukti is able to give a more coherent account of finances and book sales=
, that would also be helpful.=C2=A0 LLG seems to be getting more than $100 =
per month income from book sales, but I don&#39;t know what we are making p=
er book or how many books are being sold, since we don&#39;t get monthly re=
ports any more from Lightning Source (and never did get them from <a href=
=3D"http://amazon.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">amazon.com</a>)=
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Someone seriously needs to consider ot=
her options to reduce the cost of CLL being sold. Lulu, more delving into t=
he mechanics of print-on-demand facilities, what else?</div><div><br></div>=
<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
-------------------------<br>
<br>
I am present, of course.<br>
<br>
I suspect that no one besides mukti is either willing or able to do the job=
s of Secretary and Treasurer.=C2=A0 (Did we actually separate those two off=
ices, or was that merely a proposal?).<br>
<br>
Assuming that she is willing, I think that Karen should take over as Presid=
ent.=C2=A0 She did a better job than I did of keeping track of what had bee=
n said during the meeting regarding how to conduct the next meeting, and se=
ems to have ideas on how that next meeting should be conducted. In any even=
t, she presumably knows what she wants to happen at the beginning of next m=
onth to prepare for next meeting.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not sure I know how to conduct the meeting much better than I have,=
 given my prejudices, and my apparent inability these days to keep focused =
on matters Lojbanic for the length of time needed to finish a meeting.=C2=
=A0 And I think we need to do better in order to reinstill a sense of activ=
ity and competence in the organization (as opposed to the competence of man=
y individual Lojbanists in the language).<br>
<br>
(I could probably do just fine if we were still meeting at my house or at a=
 specific time on IRC, both modes that we utilized up till sometime after 2=
000, but the last year has shown me that I&#39;m just not keeping myself to=
gether week after week.=C2=A0 And I doubt that it is just my health that is=
 causing this, though Nora and I both are experiencing our share of &quot;s=
enior moments&quot; when our memories let us down.)<br>
<br>
I&#39;d probably accept being drafted for another &quot;year&quot;, but I d=
on&#39;t think that would be the best option.=C2=A0 Better would be to have=
 me as Vice President, ready to step up if the President somehow can&#39;t =
do the job but presuming that s/he really can.=C2=A0 But I&#39;m not even s=
ure that I would be the best choice for VP given the last couple of years.<=
br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I vote for Karen being the President.</=
div><div>And I would like more people eligible for running LLG and LLG boar=
d meetings in case the President is temporarily unavailable (e.g. vacation)=
. Probably, this would require some bylaws to be changed?</div><div><br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
lojbab<br>
<br>
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