Received: from localhost ([::1]:37144 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1d9aat-0000ak-3r; Sat, 13 May 2017 10:12:39 -0700 Received: from mail-qt0-f171.google.com ([209.85.216.171]:34784) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1d9aaq-0000Zp-ON for llg-board@lojban.org; Sat, 13 May 2017 10:12:38 -0700 Received: by mail-qt0-f171.google.com with SMTP id c13so7040302qtc.1 for ; Sat, 13 May 2017 10:12:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=gYA7gJK8/sz0asW0ClJ/HADUgaHSXiNmtpjQSQd8qJ8=; b=PMb4qdZ+o9HHDc+27EpCbvFICDDqREmWFdpNOaNuqX/hlov5P0kRDhYJqZa0QAdXPr vVZobMjqC7BhTTx+pli86SI9Ldt9AVMI6dH3d07Bbw+pvXnuHsIHNF29cT2zmr7B90A3 N8GRdd9tiUKNo8ZqlKiRDVuypa3gfqWbZURLl+SjC9mHktjdkY5Nup3pUYDx5PrsZWlt O4Q41dlRzyXGiHftebX8HKm1/ymum42I/GW93goNx4oaFJZsGjaYTIdBS+volUIwtqyR jknX1VOg6WgYM1ygQU2W5TPkaEX3IU8qNU8/44NgVSTLYVrrVT4a0NflRhiQGCtoiPgS tP7g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=gYA7gJK8/sz0asW0ClJ/HADUgaHSXiNmtpjQSQd8qJ8=; b=Yv7sSln2LrORaOCJ0TkWk/2n4SenQlAb/8RvxdF8U+anfKMMuoZ8ymNmmGUN63P0XV DQGi1aNUYlotVd66L+IWjyn7Za566AnEtI6JtvdOvEu+oyex13ANXKNwAzws7ijN8rFI yR840eX3UIChMujyna8MHRZ9vih5mNxV/XETFrqP8CkA7xdqY718A1ncIuVcf9Jj3T8U G4MkxFyFN66nxnoeYyYK+OtJLBkP3xYyw7UZamWw7LMaOoUzqJitYEOluEpFpZecSlwC ge871YjKqsCez9kuKmRC56FYJb/wpHBiR/CA4FuFTfCmRyBbHfw/aa4Mx798TaaoDLR7 OoBg== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcDENzOco4Gv6wUpoc3216W2bJyGJx0AqvW5X+0B8aX4gEapqMNw c3kXhtVLjvOLBc240skhOXnt5MfgbUm/ X-Received: by 10.200.42.77 with SMTP id l13mr9887619qtl.20.1494695550029; Sat, 13 May 2017 10:12:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.28.202 with HTTP; Sat, 13 May 2017 10:11:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <07e037b7-c069-5754-f6bf-4de87aad9e8f@lojban.org> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 20:11:49 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [llg-board] "New" Board Meeting X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7368495294530689847==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============7368495294530689847== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11406d804e9670054f6aedd5" --001a11406d804e9670054f6aedd5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2017-05-12 21:19 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier : > On 5/11/2017 2:03 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > >> If mukti is able to give a more coherent account of finances and >> book sales, that would also be helpful. LLG seems to be getting >> more than $100 per month income from book sales, but I don't know >> what we are making per book or how many books are being sold, since >> we don't get monthly reports any more from Lightning Source (and >> never did get them from amazon.com ) >> >> >> Someone seriously needs to consider other options to reduce the cost of >> CLL being sold. Lulu, more delving into the mechanics of print-on-demand >> facilities, what else? >> > > I believe a couple of years ago, I requested that people research other > POD and distribution options, especially for international Lojbanists. > There was some discussion, but it was largely left to Robin. He did what > he was willing to do as part of the process of his stepping down from > active leadership. > > The price on amazon seems high to me, but is actually not by the standards > of textbook level publication in the US. Most textbooks are much higher. Except http://www.lulu.com/shop/john-quijada/a-grammar-of-the-ithkuil-language/paperback/product-20365385.html and it looks like print on demand. For example, the Russian textbook used in my son's college level > beginning Russian class a few years ago is going for $116 on amazon these > days for the textbook alone, and almost $200 for the set of materials > required for a class (see "frequently bought together" on the link page > below). > > https://www.amazon.com/Puti-Russian-Grammar-Context-2nd/dp/ > 0130282804/ref=sr_1_14?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1494612195&sr=1- > 14&keywords=russian+textbook > > I daresay that a Russian language textbook in Russia is a lot cheaper %^) > > I vote for Karen being the President. >> And I would like more people eligible for running LLG and LLG board >> meetings in case the President is temporarily unavailable (e.g. >> vacation). Probably, this would require some bylaws to be changed? >> > > The VP is the one nominally given that job, and has little else as > official duties. If they can't or won't, maybe people should choose a VP > who will do so. But we haven't exactly had a plethora of volunteers for > any of the offices, and you in particular were one I unsuccessfully tried > to recruit a long time ago. > I remember we had Curtis and Karen as candidates. Can we have two vice presidents from now on? > > The Board, which is in constant session after this initial kick-off, and > which elects officers, can ad hoc replace a vacancy in one or all offices. > That is more-or-less what happened when Matt suddenly resigned as president > a few years ago. > > > lojbab > > _______________________________________________ > llg-board mailing list > llg-board@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board > --001a11406d804e9670054f6aedd5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-05-12 21:19 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org><= /span>:
On 5/11/2017 2:03 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 If mukti is able to give a more coherent account of finances = and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 book sales, that would also be helpful.=C2=A0 LLG seems to be= getting
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 more than $100 per month income from book sales, but I don= 9;t know
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 what we are making per book or how many books are being sold,= since
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 we don't get monthly reports any more from Lightning Sour= ce (and
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 never did get them from amazon.com <http://amazon.com>)


Someone seriously needs to consider other options to reduce the cost of
CLL being sold. Lulu, more delving into the mechanics of print-on-demand facilities, what else?

I believe a couple of years ago, I requested that people research other POD= and distribution options, especially for international Lojbanists. There w= as some discussion, but it was largely left to Robin.=C2=A0 He did what he = was willing to do as part of the process of his stepping down from active l= eadership.

The price on amazon seems high to me, but is actually not by the standards = of textbook level publication in the US.=C2=A0 Most textbooks are much high= er.

and it looks =C2=A0like= print on demand.


=C2=A0 For example, the Russian textbook used i= n my son's college level beginning Russian class a few years ago is goi= ng for $116 on amazon these days for the textbook alone, and almost $200 fo= r the set of materials required for a class (see "frequently bought to= gether" on the link page below).

h= ttps://www.amazon.com/Puti-Russian-Grammar-Context-2nd/dp/0130282= 804/ref=3Dsr_1_14?s=3Dbooks&ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1494612195&sr= =3D1-14&keywords=3Drussian+textbook

I daresay that a Russian language textbook in Russia is a lot cheaper %^)

I vote for Karen being the President.
And I would like more people eligible for running LLG and LLG board
meetings in case the President is temporarily unavailable (e.g.
vacation). Probably, this would require some bylaws to be changed?

The VP is the one nominally given that job, and has little else as official= duties.=C2=A0 If they can't or won't, maybe people should choose a= VP who will do so.=C2=A0 But we haven't exactly had a plethora of volu= nteers for any of the offices, and you in particular were one I unsuccessfu= lly tried to recruit a long time ago.

I= remember we had Curtis and Karen as candidates. Can we have two vice presi= dents from now on?
=C2=A0

The Board, which is in constant session after this initial kick-off, and wh= ich elects officers, can ad hoc replace a vacancy in one or all offices.=C2= =A0 That is more-or-less what happened when Matt suddenly resigned as presi= dent a few years ago.

lojbab

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