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([2601:5c0:c000:5293:f9a3:c4c4:2dbb:92f3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x139sm554903qkb.21.2017.05.16.20.32.13 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 16 May 2017 20:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 23:31:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <07e037b7-c069-5754-f6bf-4de87aad9e8f@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-board@lojban.org From: Karen Stein Message-ID: X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [llg-board] "New" Board Meeting X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0553123156257899935==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============0553123156257899935== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----7LO4ZWTK6U2PQPFEDOSICWRNN6HI4G" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------7LO4ZWTK6U2PQPFEDOSICWRNN6HI4G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In response to Gleki's question, I think having two vice-presidents is an e= xcellent idea=2E=20 =2Ekaris=2E On May 13, 2017 1:11:49 PM EDT, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >2017-05-12 21:19 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier : > >> On 5/11/2017 2:03 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >> >>> If mukti is able to give a more coherent account of finances and >>> book sales, that would also be helpful=2E LLG seems to be getting >>> more than $100 per month income from book sales, but I don't >know >>> what we are making per book or how many books are being sold, >since >>> we don't get monthly reports any more from Lightning Source (and >>> never did get them from amazon=2Ecom ) >>> >>> >>> Someone seriously needs to consider other options to reduce the cost >of >>> CLL being sold=2E Lulu, more delving into the mechanics of >print-on-demand >>> facilities, what else? >>> >> >> I believe a couple of years ago, I requested that people research >other >> POD and distribution options, especially for international >Lojbanists=2E >> There was some discussion, but it was largely left to Robin=2E He did >what >> he was willing to do as part of the process of his stepping down from >> active leadership=2E >> >> The price on amazon seems high to me, but is actually not by the >standards >> of textbook level publication in the US=2E Most textbooks are much >higher=2E > > >Except >http://www=2Elulu=2Ecom/shop/john-quijada/a-grammar-of-the-ithkuil-langua= ge/paperback/product-20365385=2Ehtml >and it looks like print on demand=2E > > > For example, the Russian textbook used in my son's college level >> beginning Russian class a few years ago is going for $116 on amazon >these >> days for the textbook alone, and almost $200 for the set of materials >> required for a class (see "frequently bought together" on the link >page >> below)=2E >> >> https://www=2Eamazon=2Ecom/Puti-Russian-Grammar-Context-2nd/dp/ >> 0130282804/ref=3Dsr_1_14?s=3Dbooks&ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1494612195&sr=3D1- >> 14&keywords=3Drussian+textbook >> >> I daresay that a Russian language textbook in Russia is a lot cheaper >%^) >> >> I vote for Karen being the President=2E >>> And I would like more people eligible for running LLG and LLG board >>> meetings in case the President is temporarily unavailable (e=2Eg=2E >>> vacation)=2E Probably, this would require some bylaws to be changed? >>> >> >> The VP is the one nominally given that job, and has little else as >> official duties=2E If they can't or won't, maybe people should choose >a VP >> who will do so=2E But we haven't exactly had a plethora of volunteers >for >> any of the offices, and you in particular were one I unsuccessfully >tried >> to recruit a long time ago=2E >> > >I remember we had Curtis and Karen as candidates=2E Can we have two vice >presidents from now on? > > >> >> The Board, which is in constant session after this initial kick-off, >and >> which elects officers, can ad hoc replace a vacancy in one or all >offices=2E >> That is more-or-less what happened when Matt suddenly resigned as >president >> a few years ago=2E >> >> >> lojbab >> >> _______________________________________________ >> llg-board mailing list >> llg-board@lojban=2Eorg >> http://mail=2Elojban=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/llg-board >> ------7LO4ZWTK6U2PQPFEDOSICWRNN6HI4G Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In response to Gleki's question, I think havin= g two vice-presidents is an excellent idea=2E

=2Ekaris=2E

On May 13, 2017 1:11:49 PM E= DT, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki=2Eis= =2Emy=2Ename@gmail=2Ecom> wrote:


2017-05-12 21:19 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier <<= a href=3D"mailto:lojbab@lojban=2Eorg" target=3D"_blank">lojbab@lojban=2Eorg= >:
<= span class=3D"gmail-">On 5/11/2017 2:03 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
    If mukti is able to give a more coherent account of finances= and
    book sales, that would also be helpful=2E  LLG seems to= be getting
    more than $100 per month income from book sales, but I don't= know
    what we are making per book or how many books are being sold= , since
    we don't get monthly reports any more from Lightning Source = (and
     never did get them from amazon=2Ecom <http://amazon=2Ecom>= ;)


Someone seriously needs to consider other options to reduce the cost of CLL being sold=2E Lulu, more delving into the mechanics of print-on-demand=
facilities, what else?

I believe a couple of years ago, I requested that people research other PO= D and distribution options, especially for international Lojbanists=2E Ther= e was some discussion, but it was largely left to Robin=2E  He did wha= t he was willing to do as part of the process of his stepping down from act= ive leadership=2E

The price on amazon seems high to me, but is actually not by the standards= of textbook level publication in the US=2E  Most textbooks are much h= igher=2E

and = it looks  like print on demand=2E


  For example, = the Russian textbook used in my son's college level beginning Russian class= a few years ago is going for $116 on amazon these days for the textbook al= one, and almost $200 for the set of materials required for a class (see &qu= ot;frequently bought together" on the link page below)=2E

https://www=2Eamazon=2Ecom/Puti-Russian-Grammar-Context-2nd/dp/<= wbr />0130282804/ref=3Dsr_1_14?s=3Dbooks&ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D149= 4612195&sr=3D1-14&keywords=3Drussian+textbook

I daresay that a Russian language textbook in Russia is a lot cheaper %^)<= span class=3D"gmail-">

I vote for Karen being the President=2E
And I would like more people eligible for running LLG and LLG board
meetings in case the President is temporarily unavailable (e=2Eg=2E
vacation)=2E Probably, this would require some bylaws to be changed?

The VP is the one nominally given that job, and has little else as officia= l duties=2E  If they can't or won't, maybe people should choose a VP w= ho will do so=2E  But we haven't exactly had a plethora of volunteers = for any of the offices, and you in particular were one I unsuccessfully tri= ed to recruit a long time ago=2E

I = remember we had Curtis and Karen as candidates=2E Can we have two vice pres= idents from now on?
 

The Board, which is in constant session after this initial kick-off, and w= hich elects officers, can ad hoc replace a vacancy in one or all offices=2E=   That is more-or-less what happened when Matt suddenly resigned as pr= esident a few years ago=2E


lojbab

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