Received: from localhost ([::1]:38806 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dAwbj-0004fQ-UF; Wed, 17 May 2017 03:55:07 -0700 Received: from mail-qt0-f178.google.com ([209.85.216.178]:36694) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dAwbg-0004eL-Qb for llg-board@lojban.org; Wed, 17 May 2017 03:55:06 -0700 Received: by mail-qt0-f178.google.com with SMTP id f55so5925451qta.3 for ; Wed, 17 May 2017 03:55:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Nq5zyLO89WIvzlmSlWJ4nk1u/udYnXr7UM+JfxWU528=; b=MbdWHOzq+r+UZGBRMsHgy+Hh5g2pIYA2D7ItxBghhbdeoH+8J3q0pnxDx2OEM2wZBv vXwiUGNQa6/Aj8WpmllgXBRjBsb+3eZBX//koWb7zvH1Ny3gtZe28HJrsRESE8+vqDN0 6JM7cy4HlL2Ab+MT6XLmpMZ1//nfxoRo4LTtowr2gAV62R+C8lHWcahd+YC1z1+21bXB l+e2J61FWM5Aiu9BSUK2dLd5b+3QSnPlf6sFTiV2620nfByj82ovs1BassBFYaa9/c9N YnwTTheQE18coUDtPqQGf0ihKDJ/JxvS6+78qqaE6jZoo4JPmE3DfVQYhgTGsmJUNxTF 8f+Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Nq5zyLO89WIvzlmSlWJ4nk1u/udYnXr7UM+JfxWU528=; b=eELOHZBLSNCpzrk2hbcss24MEr2gdTyXWgAeajWlwgJ9Ga76+pql+kxjzC8r0L3j5l dWC8fhnJIsyp8BakH5NM+Bn/XObUaG/QVygDqvTm8iB7ukFB/AKSDGm1jWQNo1QmCRoU Ze1ziGCiIRz8E9UKdH3dfMwEVP2dhj8zdgkpLDlaDEUqE+Y/zfLnEtbQQv5Xxz3xKYtG Gyod8IFdYvNPZaPTbSPxOYdpXK2j9Zj0oVN9LtY5BxAID/YQCziIpCXAfw3GqBtE+3eB anuvdSv5UqC5o1s8sWZZt3IeM/Q6fX1vt8mEKIYNZhrLe/wwQi+u97dNmBPn7cM86cSx 42zg== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcDaxspr27nYE9SwkACqxvbsqCudmJP90oLR3Y1C7FHGT0cTcvJv MuYYKrTGrrcqo5kZ4m+QzfjjWqnsjA== X-Received: by 10.237.62.12 with SMTP id l12mr2559249qtf.20.1495018498381; Wed, 17 May 2017 03:54:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.28.202 with HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2017 03:54:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3046B20B-369E-432D-9254-28A9C8658B7E@gmail.com> References: <07e037b7-c069-5754-f6bf-4de87aad9e8f@lojban.org> <3046B20B-369E-432D-9254-28A9C8658B7E@gmail.com> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 13:54:17 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.2 X-Spam_score_int: -21 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [llg-board] "New" Board Meeting X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2006605302805254597==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============2006605302805254597== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1140e700875da2054fb61ec0" --001a1140e700875da2054fb61ec0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2017-05-17 13:51 GMT+03:00 Karen Stein : > To clarify, do any of the current officers other than lojbab not want to > run this year? > I don't want to run. Luckily, la su'o da cu za'u ui no mei. > .karis. > > > On May 17, 2017 2:11:40 AM EDT, Gleki Arxokuna > wrote: >> >> >> >> 2017-05-17 6:31 GMT+03:00 Karen Stein : >> >>> In response to Gleki's question, I think having two vice-presidents is >>> an excellent idea. >>> >> >> As for officers I vote for the current state of affairs except: >> 1. Karen for President >> 2. If needed change bylaws to allow more than one Vice-President that can >> start, run or adjourn meetings of the Board >> 3. I vote for la lojbab. and Curtis for Vice-Presidents unless some of >> them don't want that. >> >> >> >> >>> >>> .karis. >>> >>> >>> On May 13, 2017 1:11:49 PM EDT, Gleki Arxokuna >> gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-05-12 21:19 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier : >>>> >>>>> On 5/11/2017 2:03 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If mukti is able to give a more coherent account of finances and >>>>>> book sales, that would also be helpful. LLG seems to be getting >>>>>> more than $100 per month income from book sales, but I don't know >>>>>> what we are making per book or how many books are being sold, >>>>>> since >>>>>> we don't get monthly reports any more from Lightning Source (and >>>>>> never did get them from amazon.com ) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Someone seriously needs to consider other options to reduce the cost >>>>>> of >>>>>> CLL being sold. Lulu, more delving into the mechanics of >>>>>> print-on-demand >>>>>> facilities, what else? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I believe a couple of years ago, I requested that people research >>>>> other POD and distribution options, especially for international >>>>> Lojbanists. There was some discussion, but it was largely left to Robin. >>>>> He did what he was willing to do as part of the process of his stepping >>>>> down from active leadership. >>>>> >>>>> The price on amazon seems high to me, but is actually not by the >>>>> standards of textbook level publication in the US. Most textbooks are much >>>>> higher. >>>> >>>> >>>> Except http://www.lulu.com/shop/john-quijada/a-grammar-of-the-ithku >>>> il-language/paperback/product-20365385.html >>>> and it looks like print on demand. >>>> >>>> >>>> For example, the Russian textbook used in my son's college level >>>>> beginning Russian class a few years ago is going for $116 on amazon these >>>>> days for the textbook alone, and almost $200 for the set of materials >>>>> required for a class (see "frequently bought together" on the link page >>>>> below). >>>>> >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Puti-Russian-Grammar-Context-2nd/dp/0 >>>>> 130282804/ref=sr_1_14?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1494612195&sr=1-14 >>>>> &keywords=russian+textbook >>>>> >>>>> I daresay that a Russian language textbook in Russia is a lot cheaper >>>>> %^) >>>>> >>>>> I vote for Karen being the President. >>>>>> And I would like more people eligible for running LLG and LLG board >>>>>> meetings in case the President is temporarily unavailable (e.g. >>>>>> vacation). Probably, this would require some bylaws to be changed? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The VP is the one nominally given that job, and has little else as >>>>> official duties. If they can't or won't, maybe people should choose a VP >>>>> who will do so. But we haven't exactly had a plethora of volunteers for >>>>> any of the offices, and you in particular were one I unsuccessfully tried >>>>> to recruit a long time ago. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I remember we had Curtis and Karen as candidates. Can we have two vice >>>> presidents from now on? >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Board, which is in constant session after this initial kick-off, >>>>> and which elects officers, can ad hoc replace a vacancy in one or all >>>>> offices. That is more-or-less what happened when Matt suddenly resigned as >>>>> president a few years ago. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> lojbab >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> llg-board mailing list >>>>> llg-board@lojban.org >>>>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> llg-board mailing list >>> llg-board@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > llg-board mailing list > llg-board@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board > > --001a1140e700875da2054fb61ec0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-05-17 13:51 GMT+03:00 Karen Stein <comcaresvcs@gmail.com&= gt;:
To clarify, do any of th= e current officers other than lojbab not want to run this year?

I don't want to run. Luckily, la su'= o da cu za'u ui no mei.



.karis.


On May 17,= 2017 2:11:40 AM EDT, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


2017-05-17 6:31 GMT+03:00 Karen Stein <comcaresvcs@gmail.com&g= t;:
In res= ponse to Gleki's question, I think having two vice-presidents is an exc= ellent idea.

As for officer= s I vote for the current state of affairs except:
1. Karen = for President
2. If needed change bylaws to allow more than one V= ice-President that can start, run or adjourn meetings of the Board
3. I vote for la lojbab. and Curtis for Vice-Presidents unless some of th= em don't want that.


=C2=A0

.karis.


On May 13, 2017 1:11:49 PM EDT, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


2017-05-12 21:19 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org><= /span>:
On 5/11/2017 2:03 = AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 If mukti is able to give a more coherent account of finances = and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 book sales, that would also be helpful.=C2=A0 LLG seems to be= getting
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 more than $100 per month income from book sales, but I don= 9;t know
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 what we are making per book or how many books are being sold,= since
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 we don't get monthly reports any more from Lightning Sour= ce (and
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 never did get them from amazon.com <http://amazon.com>)


Someone seriously needs to consider other options to reduce the cost of
CLL being sold. Lulu, more delving into the mechanics of print-on-demand facilities, what else?

I believe a couple of years ago, I requested that people research other POD= and distribution options, especially for international Lojbanists. There w= as some discussion, but it was largely left to Robin.=C2=A0 He did what he = was willing to do as part of the process of his stepping down from active l= eadership.

The price on amazon seems high to me, but is actually not by the standards = of textbook level publication in the US.=C2=A0 Most textbooks are much high= er.

=C2=A0 For exa= mple, the Russian textbook used in my son's college level beginning Rus= sian class a few years ago is going for $116 on amazon these days for the t= extbook alone, and almost $200 for the set of materials required for a clas= s (see "frequently bought together" on the link page below).

h= ttps://www.amazon.com/Puti-Russian-Grammar-Context-2nd/dp/0130282= 804/ref=3Dsr_1_14?s=3Dbooks&ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1494612195&sr= =3D1-14&keywords=3Drussian+textbook

I daresay that a Russian language textbook in Russia is a lot cheaper %^)

I vote for Karen being the President.
And I would like more people eligible for running LLG and LLG board
meetings in case the President is temporarily unavailable (e.g.
vacation). Probably, this would require some bylaws to be changed?

The VP is the one nominally given that job, and has little else as official= duties.=C2=A0 If they can't or won't, maybe people should choose a= VP who will do so.=C2=A0 But we haven't exactly had a plethora of volu= nteers for any of the offices, and you in particular were one I unsuccessfu= lly tried to recruit a long time ago.

I= remember we had Curtis and Karen as candidates. Can we have two vice presi= dents from now on?
=C2=A0

The Board, which is in constant session after this initial kick-off, and wh= ich elects officers, can ad hoc replace a vacancy in one or all offices.=C2= =A0 That is more-or-less what happened when Matt suddenly resigned as presi= dent a few years ago.


lojbab

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