Received: from localhost ([::1]:43506 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dFlEu-0005d0-Ub; Tue, 30 May 2017 10:47:28 -0700 Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net ([68.230.241.214]:59261) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dFlEs-0005cC-9q for llg-board@lojban.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 10:47:27 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo210.cox.net ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.28 201-2260-151-171-20160122) with ESMTP id <20170530174719.DHRL14605.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo210.cox.net> for ; Tue, 30 May 2017 13:47:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.244.98]) by eastrmimpo210.cox.net with cox id ShnK1v00A2869s801hnKpT; Tue, 30 May 2017 13:47:19 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.592DB027.0242, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=ROM9HuS+ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JFEMeGVUNR3hGa77igez4Q==:117 a=JFEMeGVUNR3hGa77igez4Q==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=PMayK-KgzlQA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=8lCmbA4MF5Khl7sGiXcA:9 a=NfZHHLJYR1Q-B8ys:21 a=Qz-zMo2A-C51SKuz:21 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none To: llg-board@lojban.org References: <83e07e17-b1d0-5d7c-de9f-2eb47a6f12b2@lojban.org> <51d3fb4c-9e20-e5cb-aeed-e6057f5ff732@lojban.org> From: Bob LeChevalier Message-ID: <36ff9618-c683-fe70-5ab3-ea82caea452a@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 13:47:18 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [llg-board] officer's election X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org On 5/29/2017 9:43 PM, Karen Stein wrote: > My understanding was that we were allowing for two vice presidents so I > cast two votes for the position. The Bylaws only refer to one VP, and I really cannot imagine why two would be needed, since in fact the VP has no legal duties except when the President cannot do the job. In my message of Mon, 22 May 2017 16:26:25 -0400, I indicated this, and that the Board cannot change the Bylaws - that takes a vote by the membership which must have advance notice that a Bylaw change is proposed in order to consider it at an annual (or other) meeting (not an easy thing in the current situation). gleki indicated that he was only concerned about their being sufficient backup for the President, and there are numerous easier ways to accomplish this. > No one really said if the vote would be > for each separately, if lojbab would be an unofficial vice-President, or > if the position would be shared by whoever relieved the top and second > highest number of votes. The Bylaws do not provide for sharing of offices, and name only three positions. We have to submit the names of the officers in our annual report to the State. I indicated in my call for a vote on the motion that people should vote for one of the two nominees. > If I need to craft pine vote alone for the > position it is for Curtis with the understanding that lojbab act in an > unofficial capacity as he has offered I have no "unofficial capacity" and have offered nothing of that sort. I said that I was willing to offer advice (if wanted), and I presume that the Board will want me to continue as the Virginia representative. I can also speak up as a director. But the officers of LLG have legal roles (which is why we report them to the state) that are not delegated. The Board can fairly quickly replace the officers if there is need. We did so once before when I again became President after Matt's sudden resignation. > For Secretary I vote for Ali, and for Treasurer I vote for Riley. They remain a single office according to the posted Bylaws (I thought that there was discussion of a split, but apparently it never made it to a vote). So again, please vote for only one. The S/T can choose to delegate some responsibilities if s/he wishes, just as I delegated to you and Curtis the gathering of information last year. I had > not previously voted for either position. Actually, you did, though you can change your vote. I didn't quote that vote in responding to your VP vote. You wrote: > I abstain on voting for President > I vote for both lojbab and Curtis for vice President > I vote for mukte for Secretary/Treasurer Please, let's keep it simple and everyone vote for only one person for each office. lojbab _______________________________________________ llg-board mailing list llg-board@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board