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([2600:1017:b400:f0b0:9f7:a40d:3b25:3873]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q5sm9467125qtb.52.2017.05.30.19.14.28 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 30 May 2017 19:14:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Riley Lynch Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 22:14:27 -0400 Message-Id: References: <83e07e17-b1d0-5d7c-de9f-2eb47a6f12b2@lojban.org> <51d3fb4c-9e20-e5cb-aeed-e6057f5ff732@lojban.org> <36ff9618-c683-fe70-5ab3-ea82caea452a@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14E304) X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.2 X-Spam_score_int: -21 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [llg-board] officer's election X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6878717393019088957==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============6878717393019088957== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-103DB88F-ED3F-4790-BEB9-6CFECD9FCA7B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-103DB88F-ED3F-4790-BEB9-6CFECD9FCA7B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I vote: Karen for president.=20 Lojbab for vice-president. Myself for secretary-treasurer, with great appreciation to Ali for offering t= o help with secretarial duties. Had I not fallen behind on minutes, we'd kno= w whether or not Secretary and Treasurer got split. --Riley Sent from my iPhone > On May 30, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Ali Sajid Imami w= rote: >=20 > I will take a look at the bylaws later today. >=20 > For president, I vote for Karen, > For VP, I vote Lojbab > For Virginia Rep, Lojbab > And for la mukti for S/T although I'd also move for the split of the offic= es in the next general meeting. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Regards, > Dr. Ali Sajid Imami > LinkedIn >=20 >> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >> Let me revote. >>=20 >> 1. I vote for Karen as President >> 2. I vote for Lojbab as VP >> 3. I vote for Lojbab as Virginia representative >> 4. I vote for la mukti as Seretary/Treasurer >>=20 >> I highly urge Karen, Curtis and Ali to delve into bylaws a bit more since= it looks like only Lojbab can hanle them out on the fly. But I guess more p= eople need to be capable just as Lojbab is atm. >>=20 >>=20 >> 2017-05-30 20:47 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier : >>>> On 5/29/2017 9:43 PM, Karen Stein wrote: >>>> My understanding was that we were allowing for two vice presidents so I= >>>> cast two votes for the position. >>>=20 >>> The Bylaws only refer to one VP, and I really cannot imagine why two wou= ld be needed, since in fact the VP has no legal duties except when the Presi= dent cannot do the job. >>>=20 >>> In my message of Mon, 22 May 2017 16:26:25 -0400, I indicated this, and t= hat the Board cannot change the Bylaws - that takes a vote by the membership= which must have advance notice that a Bylaw change is proposed in order to c= onsider it at an annual (or other) meeting (not an easy thing in the current= situation). gleki indicated that he was only concerned about their being s= ufficient backup for the President, and there are numerous easier ways to ac= complish this. >>>=20 >>>> No one really said if the vote would be >>>> for each separately, if lojbab would be an unofficial vice-President, o= r >>>> if the position would be shared by whoever relieved the top and second >>>> highest number of votes. >>>=20 >>> The Bylaws do not provide for sharing of offices, and name only three po= sitions. We have to submit the names of the officers in our annual report t= o the State. >>>=20 >>> I indicated in my call for a vote on the motion that people should vote f= or one of the two nominees. >>>=20 >>>> If I need to craft pine vote alone for the >>>> position it is for Curtis with the understanding that lojbab act in an >>>> unofficial capacity as he has offered >>>=20 >>> I have no "unofficial capacity" and have offered nothing of that sort. I= said that I was willing to offer advice (if wanted), and I presume that the= Board will want me to continue as the Virginia representative. I can also s= peak up as a director. But the officers of LLG have legal roles (which is w= hy we report them to the state) that are not delegated. The Board can fairl= y quickly replace the officers if there is need. We did so once before when I= again became President after Matt's sudden resignation. >>>=20 >>>> For Secretary I vote for Ali, and for Treasurer I vote for Riley. >>>=20 >>> They remain a single office according to the posted Bylaws (I thought th= at there was discussion of a split, but apparently it never made it to a vot= e). So again, please vote for only one. >>>=20 >>> The S/T can choose to delegate some responsibilities if s/he wishes, jus= t as I delegated to you and Curtis the gathering of information last year. >>>=20 >>> I had >>>> not previously voted for either position. >>>=20 >>> Actually, you did, though you can change your vote. I didn't quote that= vote in responding to your VP vote. >>>=20 >>> You wrote: >>>> I abstain on voting for President >>>> I vote for both lojbab and Curtis for vice President >>>> I vote for mukte for Secretary/Treasurer >>>=20 >>> Please, let's keep it simple and everyone vote for only one person for e= ach office. >>>=20 >>> lojbab >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> llg-board mailing list >>> llg-board@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> llg-board mailing list >> llg-board@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > llg-board mailing list > llg-board@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board --Apple-Mail-103DB88F-ED3F-4790-BEB9-6CFECD9FCA7B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I vote:

Karen for president. 
Lojbab for vice-president.
Myself for secretary-treasurer, with great appreciation= to Ali for offering to help with secretarial duties. Had I not fallen behin= d on minutes, we'd know whether or not Secretary and Treasurer got split.

-= -Riley

Sent from my iPhone

On May 30, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Ali Sajid Imami <ali.sajid.imami@gmail.com> wrote:

I will take a look at the= bylaws later today.

For president, I vote for Karen,
For VP, I= vote Lojbab
For Virginia Rep, Lojbab
And for la mukti for S/T= although I'd also move for the split of the offices in the next general mee= ting.



Regards,
Dr. Ali Sajid Imami
=

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Gleki Arxok= una <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me revote.

1. I v= ote for Karen as President
2. I vote for Lojbab as VP
3.= I vote for Lojbab as Virginia representative
4. I vote for la muk= ti as Seretary/Treasurer

I highly urge Karen, Curti= s and Ali to delve into bylaws a bit more since it looks like only Lojbab ca= n hanle them out on the fly. But I guess more people need to be capable just= as Lojbab is atm.


2017-05-3= 0 20:47 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>:
On 5/29/2017 9:43 PM, Karen Stein wrote:
=
My understanding was that we were allowing for two vice presidents so I
cast two votes for the position.

 The Bylaws only refer to one VP, and I really cannot imagine why two would b= e needed, since in fact the VP has no legal duties except when the President= cannot do the job.

In my message of Mon, 22 May 2017 16:26:25 -0400, I indicated this, and that= the Board cannot change the Bylaws - that takes a vote by the membership wh= ich must have advance notice that a Bylaw change is proposed in order to con= sider it at an annual (or other) meeting (not an easy thing in the current s= ituation).  gleki indicated that he was only concerned about their bein= g sufficient backup for the President, and there are numerous easier ways to= accomplish this.

No one really said if the vote would be
for each separately, if lojbab would be an unofficial vice-President, or
= if the position would be shared by whoever relieved the top and second
highest number of votes.

 The Bylaws do not provide for sharing of offices, and name only three positi= ons.  We have to submit the names of the officers in our annual report t= o the State.

I indicated in my call for a vote on the motion that people should vote for o= ne of the two nominees.

If I need to craft pine vote alone for the
position it is for Curtis with the understanding that lojbab act in an
unofficial capacity as he has offered

 I have no "unofficial capacity" and have offered nothing of that sort. I sai= d that I was willing to offer advice (if wanted), and I presume that the Boa= rd will want me to continue as the Virginia representative. I can also speak= up as a director.  But the officers of LLG have legal roles (which is w= hy we report them to the state) that are not delegated.  The Board can f= airly quickly replace the officers if there is need. We did so once before w= hen I again became President after Matt's sudden resignation.

For Secretary I vote for Ali, and for Treasurer I vote for Riley.

 They remain a single office according to the posted Bylaws (I thought that t= here was discussion of a split, but apparently it never made it to a vote).&= nbsp; So again, please vote for only one.

The S/T can choose to delegate some responsibilities if s/he wishes, just as= I delegated to you and Curtis the gathering of information last year.=

 I had
not previously voted for either position.

 Actually, you did, though you can change your vote.  I didn't quote tha= t vote in responding to your VP vote.

You wrote:
I abstain on voting for President
I vote for both lojbab and Curtis for vice President
 I vote for mukte for Secretary/Treasurer

Please, let's keep it simple and everyone vote for only one person for each o= ffice.

lojbab




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