Received: from localhost ([::1]:45326 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eKUfz-000361-IQ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:39:15 -0800 Received: from mail-ua0-f171.google.com ([209.85.217.171]:38738) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eKUfS-00033x-AL for llg-board@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:38:43 -0800 Received: by mail-ua0-f171.google.com with SMTP id i4so6502911uab.5 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:38:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=MygP1KEpfsQevUBB0Gx3z6/lUyXHiEKWuaPzRsecDW8=; b=lUCRq8EHz3GoIK5Dync/phwra5ojvi1HKZqU5MixzabKTj4/K3jM7wQJK1slSoivgC ujhA74oC9TPf4nz4RQTp/tCNPSGrTkS/LLtN4rG8iVtQ8QcpgTfZXzd1dheEZOmcpc2q mRAGgOPBiXyBmjd/ek65yNaFqCeGchtVBA9Uy9qJd2QxsIGQIezgZWkYbKp67hA7rm9Q 2q9gHsAwc8ONOh5WGvjYM+xwVXE2A7ZMd2Y9WMdgXDA7bPtme8XfAyG5loruueUqRCRp xTJSGVOBTcRWUBRvT+MF40UH74iJYIGmQE7E4jAhaj+F30+btmQPoXuCNQ1z8wGAs10R Csow== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=MygP1KEpfsQevUBB0Gx3z6/lUyXHiEKWuaPzRsecDW8=; b=cSlqjX/ENPb1mbMB+VSDYTtM3tEMjar0i+fZgCuMcIM9PVGDRIzlxAh7lJXgtgN8DG QoVCPSh+E0fzwYPMjGLaPy1ncyimxClRi7l0uOb7p8iTAnO/h7mLQi9X7jqkpZpp4NwU 3eAgYqlPjl/OJ0AfKxKGWYxNG9D3/VPBGE61Cck+ZIJE998A6cPm1cgx4u+LcGJCnmqJ BOHhB+LzyFMYL3XTgWPcGgcA2oks8GWhsNraGha5UtMhD8RaiFxJeC3sVdH+lqws/EbX Gzj6oCX+Bk6a9LkP9zvJqHsxhU9ic1+T7wYkzF+5Cvm0WG+Ox+h17DhULdR5i3jkjx1S RXiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKh8LBODHw/xDmmtK5zesb8lo3a1o7Nga83fxyknBKz2yTCT1nN x2z0xty6y1v8Do80fTWIXUCRjrpWRoT8WnjNht4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZ5QQB2/nJBB59rCuoPd8Y07FNU19HauEQDy3Aa06QAl+zoA7lnlteXQUcKYzQGPl1BNG4Dzww7NBlqt+4pj40= X-Received: by 10.176.87.10 with SMTP id s10mr2861995uaa.81.1512070715234; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:38:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.68.39 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:38:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.176.68.39 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:38:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Creative Care Services Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 14:38:34 -0500 Message-ID: To: llg-board@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-Spam_score: -4.8 X-Spam_score_int: -47 X-Spam_bar: ---- Subject: Re: [llg-board] 2017 Virginia Corporate filing complete X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4776394366703413552==" Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org --===============4776394366703413552== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045dd562db5e33055f386562" --f403045dd562db5e33055f386562 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My only concern this time is it ended up needing to be sent with the board of two years ago since it was fudged last year as well. If we can file before you receive the documents, lojbab, that would be great. If not then it should probably be done as soon as possible afterwards. . karis. On Nov 30, 2017 13:59, "Bob LeChevalier" wrote: > On 11/30/2017 12:55 PM, Riley Martinez-Lynch wrote: > >> I filed the annual report and paid the accompanying fee from the >> treasury. We=E2=80=99re good until next year at this time. >> >> On Nov 30, 2017, at 2:44 AM, Creative Care Services < >>> comcaresvcs@gmail.com > wrote: >>> >>> How early can we file this form? >>> >> >> I wasn=E2=80=99t able to find a clear answer, but I found this: >> >> Each year after the year of incorporation or registration to >> transact business in Virginia, the Commission prepares the >> corporation=E2=80=99s annual report, using information on its record= s as of >> the first day of the second month preceding the month in which it >> was incorporated or registered to transact business in Virginia. >> http://www.scc.virginia.gov/clk/befaq/an_repts.aspx#a2 >> >> >> LLG was incorporated 11/3/1988, which is why the filing is due on the >> last day of each November. The =E2=80=9Cfirst day of the second month pr= eceding the >> month in which it was incorporated=E2=80=9D would be September 1, if I= =E2=80=99m not >> mistaken. Which is to say, it seems like Virginia uses the information >> which we provide them to assemble some kind of documentation at that tim= e. >> If this is a valid reading, it would be ideal if we could provide >> up-to-date information before September: I propose we make that our goal >> for 2018 and henceforth. In accordance with that goal, I propose that we >> request the annual report form at the beginning of each year so that we >> have it on hand to submit well ahead of September. This is a step that I >> can take in January. >> > > I do indeed get the forms from the state for filing in September, probabl= y > early September. Except for the fact that we have wholesale changes to t= he > Directors and Officers, it would probably be not too difficult to create = an > acceptable imitation of a blank form from the filled in forms that I get = in > the mail. But it does require faster action, whether it be mailing the > packet to mukti/the Secretary as soon as I get it, or otherwise. > > In this case, I wasn't really aware that mukti was traveling, and I > thought I had sent him an email a while back asking what he wanted to do, > but am unable to find it (so it may have been my imagination). > > I'm not too sure that I would have filed the outdated report just to meet > the deadline, rather than submitting it late and correct, but mukti has > done so, and it is his name and not mine as the signatory, so I will not > object. (I did file late at least once, a few years ago, so I know it ca= n > be done, but it is not a good idea to be *very* late because we are "not = in > good standing" during the gap, in case someone were to ask the government > about us.) > > lojbab > > > _______________________________________________ > llg-board mailing list > llg-board@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board > --f403045dd562db5e33055f386562 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My only concern this time is it ended up needing to be se= nt with the board of two years ago since it was fudged last year as well. I= f we can file before you receive the documents, lojbab, that would be great= . If not then it should probably be done as soon as possible afterwards.
. karis.=C2=A0

On Nov 30, 2017 13:59, = "Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab= @lojban.org> wrote:
On 11/30/2017 12:55 PM, Riley Martinez-Lynch wrote:
I filed the annual report and paid the accompanying fee from the treasury. = We=E2=80=99re good until next year at this time.

On Nov 30, 2017, at 2:44 AM, Creative Care Services <comcaresvcs@gmail.com <mailt= o:comcaresvcs@gm= ail.com>> wrote:

How early can we file this form?

I wasn=E2=80=99t able to find a clear answer, but I found this:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Each year after the year of incorporation or registration to<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 transact business in Virginia, the Commission prepares the =C2=A0 =C2=A0 corporation=E2=80=99s annual report, using information on its= records as of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the first day of the second month preceding the month in whic= h it
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 was incorporated or registered to transact business in Virgin= ia.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://www.scc.virginia.gov/clk/befaq/an_repts.aspx#a2


LLG was incorporated 11/3/1988, which is why the filing is due on the last = day of each November. The =E2=80=9Cfirst day of the second month preceding = the month in which it was incorporated=E2=80=9D would be September 1, if I= =E2=80=99m not mistaken. Which is to say, it seems like Virginia uses the i= nformation which we provide them to assemble some kind of documentation at = that time. If this is a valid reading, it would be ideal if we could provid= e up-to-date information before September: I propose we make that our goal = for 2018 and henceforth. In accordance with that goal, I propose that we re= quest the annual report form at the beginning of each year so that we have = it on hand to submit well ahead of September. This is a step that I can tak= e in January.

I do indeed get the forms from the state for filing in September, probably = early September.=C2=A0 Except for the fact that we have wholesale changes t= o the Directors and Officers, it would probably be not too difficult to cre= ate an acceptable imitation of a blank form from the filled in forms that I= get in the mail.=C2=A0 But it does require faster action, whether it be ma= iling the packet to mukti/the Secretary as soon as I get it, or otherwise.<= br>
In this case, I wasn't really aware that mukti was traveling, and I tho= ught I had sent him an email a while back asking what he wanted to do, but = am unable to find it (so it may have been my imagination).

I'm not too sure that I would have filed the outdated report just to me= et the deadline, rather than submitting it late and correct, but mukti has = done so, and it is his name and not mine as the signatory, so I will not ob= ject.=C2=A0 (I did file late at least once, a few years ago, so I know it c= an be done, but it is not a good idea to be *very* late because we are &quo= t;not in good standing" during the gap, in case someone were to ask th= e government about us.)

lojbab


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