Return-path: Envelope-to: llg-board@lojban.org Delivery-date: Tue, 05 Oct 2021 21:57:56 -0700 Received: from mail-ed1-f52.google.com ([209.85.208.52]:43770) by 40c903596c50 with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1mXz06-0000bT-3u for llg-board@lojban.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 21:57:56 -0700 Received: by mail-ed1-f52.google.com with SMTP id p11so4864127edy.10 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 21:57:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Pusln9NP4xRb4ukxIip97hxatNTwArqVf2izhJgsJEE=; b=TpFqM7NtjMxjT7oD+ndFDRoo6KrCOILtV1X5j83+aEfcigYuMSCuDXyJgfSvjyCE5l x1L2ucPz4uBAfi+C4MQ0ryU52CyTgxquy7HJ8Qa2HbXmusk8eDraGvr18mLFAk5gAO/n p4NnrLokGuOFag2YIhXpZsew9hcOl5Tr7dZltjCCgvbUVDzZB1IIV2vkP2SvVby2UMqz qv8NMCPpVQYd7mpSZ7GL+5P9ca43SE5+/DN5cWPZNN4hSZaBrLpVqvux4KWLb6ondx/M IjsAB3NnHUafetHuX8PrNhcxgwidcMdFN06gSmX3JNlPEiwTtBvhBM6UrZWgwe9QczEC VNSg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Pusln9NP4xRb4ukxIip97hxatNTwArqVf2izhJgsJEE=; b=lvB5E5CFQEqJk4QKPnoRzG9U6aSvdU0F6aSRkpXVCpUq66smEk3aZ/VsRA8mHVOOEq t3nvvIdRd3tWLf1KFhcdks5y0Ju9g5wFV3FBuFTcI9uplEeMEpohQ5ld3yhq8ytVz0G4 SX6nXLNtDF1iTTdRLoVliJJNAqUiuXacHlUyfD4JuOHdDiu9LQsdoYR2cxsOweTYcXaR 2gkEhphmLIWNM7M5x2K3VBn4+7g84V0gf9ku/WBO/GXBBsxrbVLmD8Rx4qEzNqFcyamp qG96Oge2B2GM6eXEpbhyC4BcYM8MIUP6S05PyIBypSxuR+wuqLdWIK+UgRPSXySRWNg7 bCEg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531i1FHXjd2JXCWDA1z4bS23xTKIWXfcM1t/1fPZNKYrDP8Tbbye zeAaPXuUThG/mgLzhj2laMdjd/fav2i+jdeplhRuQfxRJS0H X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwUfIK2AUYyAU/yebFxftvoYkW4+TM66/731TkUSG828EEOWBflcwlehavHHsB8PLsFNEqwVw56GL3DyLRLaYk= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3b44:: with SMTP id h4mr26029149ejf.402.1633496272361; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 21:57:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 07:57:40 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PLEASE READ] Lojban Infrastructure Continuity & Videos To: Riley Lynch Cc: Robin Lee Powell , llg-board@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000e5ea805cda7fde2" X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.8 X-Spam_score_int: 8 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "43876b25e8e2", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: I think maybe we can finally migrate to AWS e.g. for mediawiki and see how much it will cost given our traffic. Robin asserted it was too expensive but that was years ago. On Wed, Oct 6, 2021, 06:59 Riley Lynch wrote: Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider [gleki.is.my.name[at]gmail.com] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.208.52 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.208.52 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain -0.1 DKIM_VALID_EF Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLY From and body contain different freemails --0000000000000e5ea805cda7fde2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I think maybe we can finally migrate to AWS e.g. for mediawiki and see how much it will cost given our traffic. Robin asserted it was too expensive but that was years ago. On Wed, Oct 6, 2021, 06:59 Riley Lynch wrote: > I watched the bus videos. > > Kudos to Robin on the containerization. For those who aren't familiar with > containerization, essentially what Robin has done is take software that > used to rely on being manually configured on the servers that he personally > runs, and package them in such a way that they can be automatically > deployed to any hosting setup capable of running containers. > > Secondly, thank you for sharing the information about > DNS/cloudflare/backup configuration. I've wondered how/where that was > configured. > > I think a logical next step would be to try to stand up at least a subset > of the containers on alternate infrastructure, both to verify that we can > do that, and so that Robin is not the only person who knows how to get that > done. I'd be glad to look into that, although it's not something I can take > on until November. > > --Riley > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 2:53 AM Robin Powell > wrote: > >> Everyone who receives this please ACK. Please feel free to share this >> with whoever you, as the board / Lojban community stewards think is >> appropriate. >> >> I have, finally, put the lojban.org infrastructure in a state that >> should be complete proof against me and my house exploding, in the form of >> normalizing the config as much as possible and producing a bunch of >> instructional videos. >> >> PFA a very short video that is just a single password, that is then >> referenced in the other videos I'm linking. If y'all want to come up with >> a proper password sharing system, go for it, just make sure to include me >> since I'm paying for these accounts :D >> >> Someone please actually *test* that you can use the password, i.e. by >> logging into gandi.net >> >> The rest of the videos are unlisted youtube videos; this is fine because >> they don't give away any secrets particularly. They are: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C9eAsnHQb4 , >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R1wUCcWy_8 , >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv1U3MP2Crs , and >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ctDjqDfbo >> >> A competent sysadmin, given these videos and all the stuff on github, >> should have no great trouble taking over for me, even if all my servers and >> myself are destroyed. >> >> Having said that, you'd probably find things a *lot* easier to recover >> given access to my servers, so in case you really can't find me here's some >> people you can contact; if none of them can reach me, it's pretty much a >> certainty that I'm missing, which obviously they'd want to know about >> anyway: >> >> PLEASE only use these in dire emergencies. >> >> Stephen Weeks / tene@allalone.org / 801-634-5859 >> >> Ruth Anne Ladue / raladueandroid@gmail.com / 650-576-3199 / 415-682-8246 >> >> Norma Gairdner / nrgairdner@gmail.com / 416-804-4252 / 905-852-2232 >> >> --0000000000000e5ea805cda7fde2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think maybe we can finally migrate to AWS e.g. for medi= awiki and see how much it will cost given our traffic.
Rob= in asserted it was too expensive but that was years ago.

On Wed, Oct 6= , 2021, 06:59 Riley Lynch <shunpi= ker@gmail.com> wrote:
I watched the bus videos.

Kudos to Robin on t= he containerization. For those who aren't familiar with containerizatio= n, essentially what Robin has done is take software that used to rely on be= ing manually configured on the servers that he personally runs, and package= them in such a way that they can be automatically deployed to any hosting = setup capable of running containers.=C2=A0

Secondly, tha= nk you for sharing the information about DNS/cloudflare/backup configuratio= n. I've wondered how/where that was configured.

I think a logical next step would be to try to stand up at least a subset= of the containers on alternate infrastructure, both to verify that we can = do that, and so that Robin is not the only person who knows how to get that= done. I'd be glad to look into that, although it's not something I= can take on until November.

--Riley

On= Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 2:53 AM Robin Powell <robinleepowell@gmail.c= om> wrote:
Everyone who receives this please ACK.=C2=A0 Please= feel free to share this with whoever you, as the=C2=A0board / Lojban commu= nity stewards think is appropriate.

I have, finally, pu= t the lo= jban.org infrastructure in a state that should be complete proof agains= t me and my house exploding, in the form of normalizing the config as much = as possible and producing a bunch of instructional videos.

PFA a very short video that is just a single password, that is then refe= renced in the other videos I'm linking.=C2=A0 If y'all want to come= up with a proper password sharing system, go for it, just make sure to inc= lude me since I'm paying for these accounts :D

Someone please actually *test* that you can use the password, i.e. by logg= ing into = gandi.net

The rest of the videos are unlisted = youtube videos; this is fine because they don't give away any secrets p= articularly.=C2=A0 They are:=C2=A0https://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3D0C9eAsnHQb4 ,=C2=A0https://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3D1R1wUCcWy_8 ,=C2=A0https://www.youtu= be.com/watch?v=3Dqv1U3MP2Crs , and=C2=A0https://www= .youtube.com/watch?v=3Da7ctDjqDfbo

A competent= sysadmin, given these videos and all the stuff on github, should have no g= reat trouble taking over for me, even if all my servers and myself are dest= royed.

Having said that, you'd probably find t= hings a *lot* easier to recover given access to my servers, so in case you = really can't find me here's some people you can contact; if none of= them can reach me, it's pretty much a certainty that I'm missing, = which obviously they'd want to know about anyway:

<= div>PLEASE only use these in dire emergencies.

Ste= phen Weeks /=C2=A0tene@allalone.org /=C2=A0801-634-5859 =C2=A0

Ruth Anne Ladue / raladueandroid@gmail.com / 650-= 576-3199 / 415-682-8246

Norma Gairdner /=C2=A0nr= gairdner@gmail.com /=C2=A0 416-804-4252 /=C2=A0905-852-2232
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