From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 22 10:25:00 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EpV7a-0003PB-Pi for llg-board@lojban.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:24:58 -0800 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:24:58 -0800 To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: Election of officers concluded Message-ID: <20051222182458.GE9783@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: llg-board@lojban.org References: <20051219070640.GB3514@ccil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 From: Robin Lee Powell Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 26 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:43:19AM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > On 12/19/05, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, John Cowan wrote: > > > > Also, fundraising. I have talked with Robin and Matt about > > establishing an informal, non-corporate organisation for > > co-ordinating Lojban activities. This organisation would either > > have paid membership, or encourage its members to buy support > > memberships in the LLG. In either case, the LLG would handle all > > the money, and finance all the activities. > > > > Bob said that "[...] no one can figure out anything noteworthy > > to offer such regular donors, other than perhaps their name on a > > web page." Well, why don't we just do that? Robin, can you make > > a system whereby donors of >=$50 can opt in to have their name > > and amount donated added to a sort of "hall of fame" web page? I > > don't think this could do any harm, if anything it would > > encourage donations. > > I need a lot more information. What would be done with the money? Either things the membership org wanted done with it, or things the LLG would have done anyways. Things like publishing books. We discussed this on IRC at one point, but you kind of disappeared while I was talking, so I'm not sure how much you saw. > Would we pay people to work on the BFPK? I've tried that; it doesn't seem to help. > What purpose would the informal organization serve that LLG does > not already serve? The LLG is, IMO, primarily a business organization, and its concerns are those of a business (keeping track of money, primarily). As such, having every person who likes Lojban being a member is innaproppriate(sp?), as it leads to the business organization being unable to get anything done. > With this very vague and non-detailed description it seems totally > redundant so far. The idea is a deliberate division of focus between business aspects and support of the actual language. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/