From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Mon Dec 26 11:51:03 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EqyN3-0001RE-2N for llg-board@lojban.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:51:01 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:51:01 -0800 To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: Two organizations Message-ID: <20051226195101.GA5289@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: llg-board@lojban.org References: <20051219070640.GB3514@ccil.org> <43AB97DF.8030703@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43AB97DF.8030703@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 From: Robin Lee Powell Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 34 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 01:23:27AM -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > > > I need a lot more information. What would be done with the > > money? Would we pay people to work on the BFPK? What purpose > > would the informal organization serve that LLG does not already > > serve? With this very vague and non-detailed description it > > seems totally redundant so far. > > This thing is not a new idea. Those who can find the members-list > archive should look back to some threads on 30 Jun 2003 - 1 July > 2003, Threads were entitled "So. To fix things" "Two proposals, > then" "Jbogri & Lojbangirz", "Withdrawal of a not yet discussed > motion". Maybe a dozen or two messages in total, though a couple > were long. The threads starting at: http://lojban.org/lists/llg-members/msg01144.html http://lojban.org/lists/llg-members/msg01148.html http://lojban.org/lists/llg-members/msg01154.html http://lojban.org/lists/llg-members/msg01149.html Or, to put it another way, the bottom half of: http://lojban.org/lists/llg-members/thrd12.html and the top half of: http://lojban.org/lists/llg-members/thrd13.html > The net result of this was a sense that there needed to be two > organizations, and I think Matt will find all kinds of interesting > reasons discussed, even though we ended up with two proposals at > loggerheads. > > I know that I ended up having an idea to resolve things that I > thought could satisfy everyone, which I was going to take up with > And outside the meeting, but it never happened (or at least I > can't find any emails to that effect). What was it to be? > The membership set up an official project to discuss the matter > and formulate a proposal, but like several other projects that > were voted on in early July, they never made it onto the projects > page, and with no reminders, we drifted on to other matters. And > then And Rosta dropped out of contact for a long time, and then I > ceased to be President. > > I suggest that the "project" finally be established - and we can > get And involved if he wants to be. It would be useful if someone > is going to set up a project page (I am not volunteering) if they > link to all the relevant messages, and if they aren't open to > non-members because the member-list-archives are restricted, the > messages may need to be copied and/or edited together instead of > linked. Seems reasonable to me. Note that I have specifically disclaimed any responsibility for making this happen; I've got too much on my plate already these days. > I have NOT reread these emails just now, and so cannot hope to say > what my ideas were to resolve the differences without considerable > more thought. OK. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/