From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jan 01 20:26:46 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:26:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EtHHQ-0005vV-Nk for llg-board@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:26:44 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 20:26:44 -0800 To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: Two organizations Message-ID: <20060102042644.GJ4087@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: llg-board@lojban.org References: <20051219070640.GB3514@ccil.org> <43AB97DF.8030703@lojban.org> <20051226195753.GB5289@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 From: Robin Lee Powell Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 39 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 01:35:39AM +0100, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 11:45:44AM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > > > >> Well, I came up with an idea that I think is pretty good. What > >> is associated with language? Nations. People who learn a new > >> language usually do so in order to visit or live or work in > >> another nation. I propose an imaginary Lojban-speaking nation, > >> and we'll offer "citizenship." I'll design some beautiful faux > >> immigration paperwork, a passport, a naturalization certificate > >> and everything. It achieves the goal of seeming official, while > >> simultaneously not interfering with business aspect of the LLG. > >> It taps into the mystique while requiring no prerequisite > >> qualifications at all. > > > > Sounds like a lot of fun to me. Go for it. > > Yes, that does sound like a lot of fun, and I think Matt & anyone > else should go for it. > > However, it is my opinion that it should NOT be adopted by the LLG > as an official project. This is because we are likely to alienate > those who are interested in Loglan for serious purposes, because > they can be expected to think that anything that smacks of > micronationalism is silly, and that Lojban is primarily a toy for > use in shared fiction. > > So I move that xartum is to be removed from the list of official > projects, and continued as independently of the LLG as possible. Two things: 1. This was Matt's suggestion as to what the seperate enthusiasts organization would be wrapped around. You don't seem to have addressed that. 2. Have you *looked* at the projects page? More than half of the entries have had no activity, umm, ever. The whole point of the projects page was for things that were basically not associated with the LLG, but to give people a sense of what was going on and to answer the question "what can I help with?". -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/