From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jan 02 13:09:10 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EtWvU-0006nw-NJ for llg-board@lojban.org; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:09:08 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:09:08 -0800 To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: Paying for BPFK work (was: Re: Election of officers concluded) Message-ID: <20060102210908.GL4087@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: llg-board@lojban.org References: <20051219070640.GB3514@ccil.org> <20051222182458.GE9783@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 From: Robin Lee Powell Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 57 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 02:43:05PM +0100, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:43:19AM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > >> Would we pay people to work on the BFPK? > > > > I've tried that; it doesn't seem to help. > > Well, it did work for me -- for a short period of time, when life > was simpler than it is now. *nod* > An idea that occured to me between Christmas and New Year's is to > offer rewards that are *time-limited* -- ie. $10 to anyone who > finishes this or that section by some set date, and no reward if > later. Yes, that's a *much* better idea. The reward can (and should) be raised in that case. > By my count, there are 49 sections non-checkpointed sections left. > Robin's offer is $10 per section. So letting the offer stand would > cost roughly $500. xorxes, at least, refuses the money, so it's not that bad. > With all that Robin has done for us, I think it is unacceptable to > let him pay that much, out of pocket, just to get the BPFK done. > But could the LLG take over the offer? I think we can afford that > much. Speaking as Treasurer, I agree. > But I see two problems with this: > > 1) Some (most?) members of the board are also BPFK commissioners. > If we pass rewards for BPFK work, we are basically using the LLG's > money to pay ourselves. So we exempt the board, I guess. I can do that stuff out of pocket. > 2) If employing people in Virginia involves as much bureacracy as > in Norway, it would be absolutely necessary to find a way of > giving money to BPFK commissioners without turning them into LLG > employees. Oh yeah, *that*. I have no idea how this works from a tax or beauraucracy perspective, and (again as Treasurer) I'd rather not find out. Let's keep this informal; if I run out of money (oh happy day!), I bet Jay would be willing to help. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/