From matt.mattarn@gmail.com Thu May 04 07:04:43 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Thu, 04 May 2006 07:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.231]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61) (envelope-from ) id 1FbeRa-0001XR-RC for llg-board@lojban.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 07:04:41 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i34so347148wra for ; Thu, 04 May 2006 07:04:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TqmwhmeanAimMH/uVStP+ZGnPw5cEugiTv91BwkwxySdGEaLhlgi1tJ6piGN2vWH87wepJvOq+Lh/tEaMB92VtuKJtbYb+ZMw1ApS6s2cfpe48MsmyvqqtFdVJ+F0KL/8RybGL20d/3eSM1XgTMIDrWZh6tDElCDKtZ5/MlbGiY= Received: by 10.65.97.5 with SMTP id z5mr58543qbl; Thu, 04 May 2006 07:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.249.4 with HTTP; Thu, 4 May 2006 07:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 10:04:37 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: PLEASE READ: Re: Re: Archivist: PD docs... Which, exactly? In-Reply-To: <44593300.5050408@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060424172644.GK2842@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <4457AF02.6040805@lojban.org> <44593300.5050408@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 105 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board If we were to stick to the Public Domain instead of CC Attribution or CC Attribution Share-Alike, it might be a good idea to use the verbiage provided for that purpose by CreativeCommons.org: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/ On 5/3/06, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > We have substantially more control on derivative works when we have a > copyleft situation. Yes. How much control do we want, and for what purposes? Obviously, none of us here will want another JCB-style intellectual property regime. I feel that neither do we want to lose control in such a way that someone else uses our work for a project that's under lock and key as their own intellectual property. That is why I support the Share-Alike CC license. (Robin would have to refresh my memory about what he doesn't like about that license.) Then we can put the copyleft button on the site: http://creativecommons.org/technology/usingmarkup I propose the following verbiage, adapted from the TOU on the Creative Commons wiki. Lojban Wiki: Terms of Use 1. When using this wiki, you acknowledge and agree that: (a) this wiki is provided for general information purposes only and provides a general discussion about the Lojban language, tools and related issues and should and may not be relied on, represented to be or used as a substitute for securing appropriate advice or professional consultation; (b) Logical Language Group provides this wiki as a forum for members of the public to discuss this information and that nothing in this wiki constitutes the official opinion, position or view of Logical Language Group; (c) Logical Language Group is not responsible for the information provided in this wiki and/or for any action taken or activity that occurs as a result of the information provided on this wiki. 2. When contributing to this wiki you agree that: (a) your contributions to the wiki will be licensed to the general public under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 license; (b) attribution for your contributions will be given, to the fullest extent permitted by the applicable law, to the wiki in the form of "Lojban wiki." 3. In addition to and without limiting the license granted under 2 above, you agree to license, upon submission, any and all code that you contribute to Logical Language Group on a non-exclusive, royalty-free, perpetual basis for Logical Language Group to use in any manner and for any purpose, including without limitation to reproduce, distribute, make derivative works, publicly display, publicly perform and publicly digitally perform for commercial and noncommercial purposes, in any format. 4. You represent and warrant to Logical Language Group, its directors, officers, employees and agents that you have the right and authority to grant the licenses described in 2 and 3 and you indemnify Logical Language Group, it's directors, officers, employees and agents from and against any and all direct losses, costs, expenses and liabilities suffered or incurred by Logical Language Group as a result of your breach of this warranty. -epkat