From lojbab@lojban.org Sun Jul 30 20:30:53 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmmtao01.cox.net ([68.230.240.38]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G7OUS-0004zV-If for llg-board@lojban.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:30:51 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [24.250.99.39]) by eastrmmtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with ESMTP id <20060731033046.IHZG12077.eastrmmtao01.cox.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:30:46 -0400 Message-ID: <44CD79A8.5070803@lojban.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:31:52 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: [ben@goertzel.org: Lojban: Interesting Grant Opportunity] References: <20060729213809.GA28137@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20060730010916.GD28137@chain.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20060730010916.GD28137@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 135 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 01:29:56AM +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > >>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >> >> >>>----- Forwarded message from Ben Goertzel ----- >>> >>>So, what I'm asking for now is whether you would >>>-- allow me to list your names as collaborators, on the white paper >>>-- review the white paper and make suggestions [of course if you >>>really don't like it, you can remove your name before I submit it] >> >>I'm in. > > > Me too, but I want first dibs if in actual job comes out of this. > :-) > We should make sure he has available the proposal I created many years ago (with I think Sheldon Linker's help) that was an NSF small business initiative grant program, but the ideas might be a good basis for a university-based project as well. If you don't have it in the stuff I've sent you previously Robin, I can dig through the archives. ni'o Alas, the people that I knew that we had at universities 10 years ago or whenever I wrote that proposal are either lost-contacts for me, or as in pc's case retired, so I have no suggestions on that aspect. One of my strengths when I was still on top of my game (and on top of LLG) was that I knew the members of the community pretty well, had a data base to cover me when I forgot things, and could find out answers to questions like this. Of course we also know I had several weaknesses to counter such strengths. I mention it because this is where my forever-attempts to bring my archaic dbase-based address-list into the Internet era so that we had a good set of data on our community members and their interests and connections would have come in handy. Ideas for building a new data base of the community should be considered. I'm sure that there is a better way which gains us information comparable to what the old registration form provided, and which protects the privacy of community members. But maybe someone else besides me should figure out how to do it right %^) lojbab