From lojbab@lojban.org Fri Oct 27 12:24:50 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centrmmtao03.cox.net ([70.168.83.81]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GdXJs-0008Fu-KD for llg-board@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:24:48 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by centrmmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP id <20061027192445.BPNB23438.centrmmtao03.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:24:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([72.192.234.183]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id fXQD1V00g3y5FKc0000000 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:24:15 -0400 Message-ID: <45425CA0.4020506@lojban.org> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:23:12 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: Motion to officially recognize new art References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 192 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board Matt Arnold wrote: > I understand that the Cartesian coordinate system imposed on a Venn > diagram is fully official. I don't want to completely overturn the > decision we've inherited. Although in principle I wouldn't mind if we > did overturn it, in my view there is no good reason to antagonize > someone who felt he had a hand in choosing it. Especially since it WAS chosen by community vote among several proposed alternatives. > It's acceptable and desirable to update any group's visual identity > art elements for new times and new standards of taste. (Not so with > flags and heraldry, which are intended to remain the same.) I understand and agree. > The new art is popular among the community of Lojban enthusiasts. I suggest that this be determined by a community vote among alternatives. I would like the old logo to be an identifying mark on the outside of Lojban dead-tree books, so long as we continue selling the red book, for which it is the spine logo (and maybe a few years afterwards). I have no problem with an updated logo for non-book publishing and for the web, and perhaps even incorporating it internally in books as well. But a still think the community should choose among a selection of alternatives. lojbab