From arj@nvg.org Fri Oct 27 13:03:21 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no ([129.241.210.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GdXv4-0000bY-4m for llg-board@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:03:19 -0700 Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB2E947B6 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:02:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:02:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Arnt Richard Johansen X-X-Sender: arj@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: Motion to officially recognize new art In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 193 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arj@nvg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board Matt already knows this, but for the rest of you I want to state that I am personally very much attached, emotionally, to the cartesian coordinate system/Venn diagram logo. But I'll try not to let that affect my judgement. On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Matt Arnold wrote: > LLG Board, > > In this email, I am making a motion to the board. For those who don't > know much about me, I used to work in graphic design before moving > into print production management for an ad agency. I wish the LLG to > segment out certain purposes toward which my Lojban visual identity > element could be given official sanction. For those who don't know it, > a sample is here: > http://www.nemorathwald.com/lojban/lojban_masthead.gif I think your arguments in favour of your new logo are sound. I think it is especially important to note, as you mentioned, that the fact that the vast majority of the community who has any opinion, thinks that your logo is better. My main concern is that the mere change, in itself, could be confusing to our target audience. What I would like to ask you, as someone who knows a lot more about marketing than I, is the following: - Are there examples of corporations, especially non-profit ones, that have benefitted from having two different logos/flags/emblems/insignia? - Are there examples of corporations, especially non-profit ones, that have benefitted from completely abandoning an established logo, and adopted a new one that is completely visually and conceptually disparate? -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ - Hvorfor snakker man engelsk på Internet? - Har du hørt om minste felles nevner?