From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jan 18 14:10:04 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H7fSK-0004GW-JH; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:10:01 -0800 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:10:00 -0800 To: Rob Phillips via RT Subject: [llg-board] Re: [lojban.org #2084] Your site. Message-ID: <20070118221000.GH21920@digitalkingdom.org> References: <5b5069e80701181314w2ce9a997ubf4c9ccd3ca61f09@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 280 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 01:15:36PM -0800, Rob Phillips via RT wrote: > > Your site blows. In fact, it blows big monkey balls. I don't > know how to say or stress this in 'lojban' so I'm going to say it > again in English: your site is a web design abomination. The > first thing that comes to mind when you hear 'lojban' is loser or > nerd. If your site reflects the sentiment of 'boring nerd stuff' > then your whole organization is doomed to forever fall into this > category. I, personally, do not care whatsoever about 'lojban,' > your goals with it, or your incredibly horrible website. This is > just my complaint that even if I wanted to read some of the text > on the home page, I wouldn't be able to do so without a burning > sensation in my retinas. FIX THIS. I am not a web designer. I > am, however, someone who views web material everyday, and I know > the difference between a good site and a bad site. Wow. You really know how to get people to do what you want, don't you? Yep, being pointlessly insulting out of the blue is *definately* how you get on in this world. > Add color. Change the background to something other than the harsh > white so that it does not hurt to read. Also, the navigation > setup is simply boring. And what insightful, useful suggestions! 1. Yes, clearly google.com, ibm.com, yahoo.com, paypal.com and ebay.com should all take away their horrible white backgrounds. :-| FFS, learn to configure your browser or turn down the brightness on your monitor or something. 2. This may surprise you, but "boring" is completely useless feedback, for two reasons: navigation *should* be boring, and it doesn't tell me what elements you'd want to see changed. > It is understandable that you would go for a simplistic design > that fits the material, but this one failed, and it will continue > to fail as long as it turns readers away. Actually, Lojban users have been increasing continuously since I took over as webmaster. This is my second site redesign, and I got many spontaneous compliments since I put it in place. I interact with users of the site every day, and you're the first person to provide such... helpful feedback. No-one else has said anything similar. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/