From lojbab@lojban.org Fri Jan 19 07:40:39 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from centrmmtao02.cox.net ([70.168.83.82]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H7vqu-0000GI-9H for llg-board@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:40:35 -0800 Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by centrmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP id <20070119154021.FYSS15326.centrmmtao02.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:40:21 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([72.192.234.183]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id D3eq1W00B3y5FKc0000000; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:38:52 -0500 Message-ID: <45B0E64A.2050207@lojban.org> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:39:54 -0500 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: [lojban.org #2084] Your site. References: <5b5069e80701181314w2ce9a997ubf4c9ccd3ca61f09@mail.gmail.com> <20070118221000.GH21920@digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Matt Arnold wrote: > I searched Rob's email really hard for a grain of truth-- with a > magnifying glass. Without trying to emulate his attitude, I can > convert his mountain of lead into a tiny nugget of gold. > > For a long time, I have been giving serious thought to our need for a > little bit of imagery at the top of the homepage. We don't want to get > away from true nerdiness, of course. But by using "nerd stuff" as a > pejorative, the phrase for which Rob is so ineffectively groping is > really "dry academia". We do need to avoid the dry academic look. > > Don't worry, I don't want to turn it into a garish circus! But a > classy touch of art or a photoX-archive-position: 282 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board Matt Arnold wrote: > I searched Rob's email really hard for a grain of truth-- with a > magnifying glass. Without trying to emulate his attitude, I can > convert his mountain of lead into a tiny nugget of gold. > > For a long time, I have been giving serious thought to our need for a > little bit of imagery at the top of the homepage. We don't want to get > away from true nerdiness, of course. But by using "nerd stuff" as a > pejorative, the phrase for which Rob is so ineffectively groping is > really "dry academia". We do need to avoid the dry academic look. > > Don't worry, I don't want to turn it into a garish circus! But a > classy touch of art or a photo would turn it from looking like a > thesis paper to looking like the cutting edge of cool. Just a touch, > at the top of the page. Imagine a scale of one to ten in which one is > "thesis paper" and ten is "garish circus". The part of lojban.org > visible above the cut (where you can't see the blog) is at about two. > It should be at three or four. If you are looking for "something is better than nothing" to adorn the top of the web page, how about one of the group photos from LogFest? The positive side to this idea is that it makes it clear that we are numerous and that we get together, so it isn't entirely an Internet thing (which in turn might encourage attendance at future LogFests). I am inspired by the TLI Website, which has featured a picture of "the three old men of Loglan" at the top for so many years, two of the three are dead; I think we could manage a little higher rate of variation (Alternative - perhaps you can even provide a selection of photos of Lojbanic activity, and have the script choose one randomly - I cannot pretend to know the limits of what can be done). Alternative unrelated idea: If you decide to include some generic art as opposed to something specific to Lojban, why not just use some of the public domain and freeware art that is out there, and make each one into a mini-vocabulary lesson - have a Lojban caption with translation and in some cases vocabulary words (with or without lines connecting them to their referents depending on whether the art is a simple object or a complex 19th century line drawing with lots of objects to be identified - the latter could turn into a Lojban List lexicon building effort if there are a lot of things for which no words have been assigned). Oh, and consider including this kind of things whenever we publish a JL or other newsletter. When I did JLs, I hadn't the art manipulation skill to do this (and the software tools for this were still rather rudimentary unless you got an expensive desktop-publishing package). lojbab