From matt.mattarn@gmail.com Wed Dec 12 13:17:59 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:17:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2Yxk-0002Zr-0D for llg-board@lojban.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:17:58 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so304254rvf.46 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:17:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hKbixlbTXiZ6n72oDBHkpRNL0xe45FRE10B9KWU4b3k=; b=SivLWqhpm0gxZ0K/1y8LbmX00dNTuYvR2SWC0TbUv3KUb5apQBz08oSa1KZ2U8UrtT5opGyTnJ3b6rD8Kj3ZFapkuTxacLpNv+GP65B51teaA9FgEaex1n/yqmCM2oRTAjYVmLZY6BwGmQGL0nA56xNuBPS9lUSElqjloRDR4tE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bSkXfzCcL3UA/rqqCuUR8yp3VCy0GReoPLZgbMHS9Q9aNo8BsLhYUdOn6ynenOoNQOFk//VV8sJnCSSsiab82cbfmQmXRsDYaxr5CDYeeVGwXNL8S5WcmyIqvwi7ytACvEbgg9mbX2eVXrj5+yTDA6cL6doo7HsPVWm7FvdDcXc= Received: by 10.141.161.6 with SMTP id n6mr672756rvo.41.1197494264728; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.192.21 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:17:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:17:44 -0500 From: "Matt Arnold" To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: Official: Election of officers In-Reply-To: <47604276.5000705@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071212195559.GA4608@nvg.org> <47604276.5000705@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 347 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board On Dec 12, 2007 3:20 PM, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > > So. The BoD is elected, and this mailing list should now reflect the new slate, thanks to Robin. > > > > I therefore call the meeting of the Board of Directors of the Logical Language Group to order. The meeting will remain in session continually. We will conduct our business in the order of appearance. > > > > Our first issue is to elect the Officers of the LLG. We need to fill three offices: President, Vice President, and Secretary/Treasurer. > > > > I suggest the following: > > > > - Matt Arnold as President > > - John Cowan as Vice President > > - Robin Lee Powell as Secretary/Treasurer > > Since John doesn't want the job, and Arnt obviously is uninterested > since he did not propose himself, I guess I need to be in the slate > somewhere. > > I would prefer Matt to be President, as he has been more of a community > leader than I have in recent years, but I will admit to being very put > off by his asking us what the duties are at this point. Matt - you've > been on the Board for a few years, and you know your way around the > website better than most of us. Surely you can find the bylaws and read > them (and do so faster than we can copy and paste them and email them). > > Matt, if you aren't willing to do this on your own after all this time, > then I will put my name up for President, and ask Matt to be VP with my > commitment to delegate as much as possible to the other officers. > > lojbab > I would accept nomination for Presidency or Vice-Presidency. I'm sure I probably could look up the bylaws, and up through 2006 I undoubtedly would have. I am just contemptuous of bylaws, and am sublimely indifferent to Robert's Rules of Order. They're actively counterproductive and detrimental. It's always been a mark against me for being on the board at all, to say nothing of Presidency. In my defense, I would point out that proceduralist quibblers are usually the same ones who do very little and then proceed to get in the way of actual work. The way I work is to talk to the stakeholders, make sure everybody understands each other, and then do it. I regard Boards of Directors of volunteer incorporations the way I now regard Polyamory. I've tried both structures, and I've heard of a lot of examples of them working, but haven't _seen_ it happen yet. There's some game theory happening in these structures that prevents their objectives. Here is an example of the kind of President I'll be if I am ever elected some day. The reason I've hardly been heard of by the Lojban community in 2007 is that the lion's share of my energy is now focused on Penguicon. Without actually being on the Board, I got several inactive Penguicon Board of Directors members ousted and replaced, took a hedge trimmer to the bylaws, and increased Board activity exponentially. I was elected Conchair for 2009, and proceeded to ride into Dodge City and clean up the town. Before someone protests my attitude toward proceduralism, let me tell you what resulted. I decided a weekend date and sent guest invitations six months earlier than any previous Conchair, gave dismissal notice to staff members and arranged their replacements, got a marketing intern, declared unambiguous decisions that made people angry, congratulated the clear winners and consoled the clear losers, wrote out a series of deadlines for the year, pushed staff recruitment dinners to happen on a regular basis, grew our volunteer base and enthusiasm, arranged a 100-person LAN party, brought in the Giant Singing Tesla Coils, started a tech company Booth Fair, got sponsored by Google and Silicon Mechanics, and opened negotiations with a hotel so large that you could fit our current hotel up-ended in its elevator atrium. So, although I would accept the Presidency of the Logical Language Group Board of Directors, I would not actually do it justice until May of 2009. At that time, if elected, I would proceed to make Lojban succeed in an agressive manner guaranteed to upset somebody. If anyone cries dictator the way they did with Lojbab so many years ago, too bad-- it won't hurt my feelings one bit. They can impeach me, and I've lost nothing, but at least somebody tried. Or they can leave, and I'll recruit to replace them. Or they can actually get off their butts. Lead, follow, or get out of the way. On the other hand, if the decision is to continue failing, I am content. At least until May 2009. -Matt