From matt.mattarn@gmail.com Wed Dec 26 14:54:25 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7f8n-0007Pl-1Q for llg-board@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:54:25 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so1929230rvf.46 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:54:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4GJMor4FEtBib6v0kVOADru560jecDESr+4N3f17c2Q=; b=iQWAjkXdQYLC4YOdCwWugvdtqtShS2LXqksNbUT4/ZaMwPhGa1HT320zJAarHMRxP5B1+wZIGlf9jTIN1/lWHo8xyu0qUqTIy31jrue5uG5EueAWGvAY3yLr/0QbP72uk0N+f0RTtYrYtVJiXa74aIiPvK7X0aK41RTs6onHDsg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q2dgfCaDayEM/chvGgIo8to28dXp61fKv5vzbFUgz/5CunPfFhSGtytdJyJrUNU7f2nPPLidlV/gHNqiH5vFbgsJ2GGYPaqiW2r/Z7dY9EzTajHWoKqnd5JUhcDTnGWm1zbMr67pVXggXWxYMgPKpgYxmbkGY2GB5Ibo/WNA+oE= Received: by 10.140.169.6 with SMTP id r6mr3643100rve.210.1198709659349; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:54:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.5.3 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:54:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:54:19 -0500 From: "Matt Arnold" To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: Official: Election of officers In-Reply-To: <4772CFE6.6030301@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071212195559.GA4608@nvg.org> <20071212200501.GD30117@mercury.ccil.org> <20071217170704.GB31951@nvg.org> <20071226153056.GE31951@nvg.org> <4772CFE6.6030301@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 359 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board On Dec 26, 2007 5:04 PM, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > Matt Arnold wrote: > > Thanks, Arnt. Does anyone have any other business for this meeting? If > > not, I move to adjourn. > > Point of information. A motion to adjourn is a formal procedure, with > rather high precedence (if it wasn't the president making the motion, I > would fear being out of order to discuss it which is why I raise this as > a point of information). Unlike the members meeting which is an annual > thing, the LLG Board meeting has been kept open without adjourning for > an incredibly long time (years), because the alternative is to call a > meeting, with all the formality that entails, ensuring a quorum is > present, etc. I suggest that the president, in his dislike of > formality, would rather the meeting be kept open and informal. So, > probably, would the secretary, who would have to somehow create minutes > for a meeting that has gone on pretty much as long as he has been in > office, a fate that he is spared so long as the meeting never concludes %^) > > In the olden days, we had a 5 minute meeting right after the members > meeting to elect officers, and when as President I needed Board approval > of something (such as the expediture of money or the approval of a > policy) I had to send out notice and call each member sequentially by > telephone (luckily we were still all in the US then) to vote on each > issue raised, and this meant things could not be done too quickly. I > have no idea what is legal in the Internet era under a new set of rules, > so I ask the two parliamentarians to add their two cents as to any other > formal ramifications of adjournment. > > lojbab > Sounds great to me. I withdraw my conditional motion to adjourn.