From lojbab@lojban.org Sun Apr 25 16:01:42 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net ([68.230.240.59]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6ApX-0005xf-Cs for llg-board@lojban.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:01:42 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100425230133.RBBJ23683.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:01:33 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([70.187.225.124]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id 9z1Y1e0012hfrC602z1YSz; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:01:32 -0400 X-VR-Score: -20.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=u9aaE4Pfr0xy9UvPxuh9qFR1i2SV5RyaXjJQawTgqeY= c=1 sm=1 a=C9g1gfFmIRwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=lsg66w07okjF3vGJL2g+Jw==:17 a=ct_gWdrbPdNo5fzcMOUA:9 a=Z81a4qGh4sAdzjg3LFAA:7 a=aX2tL1MffT2fw1GXh6-uZL4RxKMA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=OXZrnhqL2hnQW6O4:21 a=zk8jTsypi06x4qS3:21 a=lsg66w07okjF3vGJL2g+Jw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4BD4C9CB.2090105@lojban.org> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:01:31 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: [matt.mattarn@gmail.com: Re: [eric_4001@hotmail.com: lojban]] References: <20100425193936.GW20112@digitalkingdom.org> <20100425195124.GZ3000@nvg.org> In-Reply-To: <20100425195124.GZ3000@nvg.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 665 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:39:36PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >>Matt is *deeply* poor; he's actually using food stamps to eat at >>this point. I move we give him $5 per CLL he ships, and $3 per >>*shipment* on other items he might ship (which is currently nothing, >>but who knows?). > > > Can we do that without making him an employee? I think we can do so, if we pay him as an order fulfillment contractor and we are passing the costs along to customers as a "shipping charge". The $3 shipment fee seems reasonable, looking at what bookstores charge for shipping, and should be built into whatever shipping charge we assign to such orders. The $5 is probably a bit high to justify if we don't explicitly do so. I suggest as an alternative, that Robin determine the number of CLLs shipped this year, and give Matt the $1 he asks, for all books since the beginning of the year. For domestic book orders by postal mail, we probably have that much slop covered in the existing charges, though probably not on UPS and international orders. Then, when the updated online CLL is made available (which I presume will not be long), we lower the price of CLL as we had already planned to, by $14 (to $25) and increase the shipping charge by $4 or $5 to all destinations (Matt should have a better idea on how well the existing charge is covering what he spends without any payment to him), and increase Matt's fee to $5 per book. lojbab