From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 09 11:57:56 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list llg-board); Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:57:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PQmcm-0006aa-P0 for llg-board@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:57:56 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 11:57:56 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: llg-board@lojban.org Subject: [llg-board] Re: I are *dumb*. Message-ID: <20101209195756.GK27025@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: llg-board@lojban.org References: <20101209180933.GC27025@digitalkingdom.org> <20101209190730.GF27025@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-archive-position: 748 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: llg-board-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: llg-board@lojban.org X-list: llg-board To expand on my plans, what I'd like to see happen is: 1. Bob gets some books stickered and shipped to Amazon (sorry Bob). (There's a discussion to be had on the warehousing costs; at less than $500/yr for 300 books, I'm comfortable just getting as many as possible out of Bob's house, as sort of a "thank you" for storing them all these years, but others may not agree and prefer that we ship to amazon in small chunks) 2. I update the CLL page to say "please for the love of all that's holy buy from Amazon if at all possible". 3. Matt continues to be in charge of order fulfilment for the non-Amazon stuff until he runs out, at which point it reverts to Bob. -Robin On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 11:44:26AM -0800, Matt Arnold wrote: > I'm very happy about this move. > > I haven't run out of books yet, so I never picked up the latest > shipment dropped off at Lojbab's relative's relative in Ann Arbor. > I'll put it on my schedule to do so, and then I can put them all > in the mail at once. > > -Matt > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > Yeah, that was when we had better options, i.e. your awesomeness. > > :) > > > > That's no longer an option, and I'm very happy to eat the cost. > > Hell, we can calculate it back in to the book cost. > > > > -Robin > > > > On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 10:24:05AM -0800, Matt Arnold wrote: > >> I am overwhelmingly in favor. The only reason we weren't doing it > >> already is that I knew how averse this group is to losing so much > >> money to shipping them to a new fulfiller. We went to a lot of > >> trouble to drive them out to me to avoid such costs. > >> > >> But if you're willing to accept the cost, I'll happily ship books > >> to Amazon. > >> > >> -Matt > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Robin Lee Powell > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > So, those of you who use Amazon regularily get to join me in feeling > >> > dumb; the rest of you are off the hook. > >> > > >> > You know how Amazon stuff from non-Amazon sellers sometimes has the > >> > "Fulfilled by Amazon" thing? > >> > > >> > Yeah? > >> > > >> > Stop and think about it. > >> > > >> > *There* ya go.  Now you know how I felt this morning.  -_- > >> > > >> > The process: > >> > > >> > 1.  Buy some 30-up letter size labels. > >> > > >> > 2.  Print out a bunch of them from the PDF? from Amazon. > >> > > >> > 3.  Stick them on the books. > >> > > >> > 4.  Ship them to Amazon. > >> > > >> > 5.  Profit! > >> > > >> > It's apparently $0.13 per item per month for storage (assuming my > >> > estimate of dimensions and weight is close to correct), $1.80 per > >> > book for the actual picking, packing, and shipping. > >> > > >> > I say we send 3/4 of the remaining books. > >> > > >> > Now, there are a few issues here: > >> > > >> > 1.  It's a bunch of (one-time!) work for Bob. > >> > > >> > 2.  No more fulfillment money for Matt. > >> > > >> > 3.  It's going to cost a fair bit to ship the books to Amazon. > >> > > >> > I think it's a fantastic idea, I'm horrified I didn't think of it > >> > ages ago, and we should start *RIGHT NOW*.  I so move. > >> > > >> > Any objections?  (in particular from Bob and/or Matt?) > >> > > >> > -Robin > >> > > >> > -- > >> > http://singinst.org/ :  Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > >> > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > >> > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > >> > is "na nei".   My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ > >> > > >> > >> > > > > -- > > http://singinst.org/ :  Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > > is "na nei".   My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ > > > > -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/