Received: from localhost ([::1]:55875 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta7Yp-000886-2z; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:17:31 -0800 Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com ([209.85.215.53]:36813) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta7Yh-00087y-SA for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:17:29 -0800 Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id w12so3041202lag.40 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:17:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=W+5KsN+RkLDxDGJmyEi9fbOW85liemhv+ufSDgLPLkA=; b=QRi7MmICzX0U5/7ZCWwDlIHVyJADKIqN2z/LHmSxUc6+hz5+ulzHtrOCH4GWpvK6hc 9Mv1bNR2XrymofU2sjuGja3ir3NsLuqQ32DNlEN819r7gc+iCrQJzXjcGT95DzPNhUUZ EH2XUluVEFZWDNRJRLVr+dWuWnxPwOQe63wDamNwVYajajuQUqr3/wb31qQPtCkYvH1v Y2cere7NMOnEb0VrBpQvls+I5qWUA14/kt2oG2OjA/qORgKVz1AYeTU3dEP8HsYIehy/ 1XQtoXIQTyrKvAf5vAPxP/nLTUx+CnYAHdr71LdIA6JwHbYkHIkL6RQHtvoKtGwR3qBl C8lw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.104.240 with SMTP id gh16mr9465328lab.56.1353255436161; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.58.83 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:17:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50A8FCD6.1000103@gmail.com> References: <5097960D.8000704@lojban.org> <20121105114949.GN407@mercury.ccil.org> <20121105154210.GD30442@mercury.ccil.org> <20121116214127.GK25271@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <50A7A49C.4010403@gmail.com> <20121118004735.GE28469@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <50A8FCD6.1000103@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:17:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: Matt Arnold To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [Llg-members] LLG Annual Meeting - Quorum Call X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org An auxlang will succeed when Bulletball is an Olympic sport. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOOw2yWMSfk The Senior Olympics don't count. On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM, And Rosta wrote: > Robin Lee Powell, On 18/11/2012 00:47: > >> Thanks for the explanation. Your repsonse implies that there's an >> actual contender out there; is that true? It's news to me if so. > > > Xorban would count as an actual contender, since it's now out there in the > public world, albeit in inchoate form, having been born accidentally in > August 2012. > > >> Is there another loglang with, say, 20 active community members? If >> not, I find all your points fairly irrelevant, but I can understand >> why you wouldn't. > > > Xorban doesn't have 20 active community members but has the most active > community focused on loglang development (compared to Lojban, Ceqli, Guaspi; > I don't monitor what's going on with Loglan), tho it's early days. I've > always thought the size and vitality of the Lojban community was important, > in that it seemed likely that because loglangers gravitate thither, it would > be from within that community that a collaborative project to develop an > adequate auxloglang might emerge. > > I'm not sure why you'd ask about number of active community members yet find > my points irrelevant. I said "The reason for anyone joining the Lojban > community now would be a liking for the language and/or the community"; I > agree that the size of the active Lojbanist community is a potential > attraction for many (of the few interested in invented languages in the > first place). Maybe you're thinking that you do want there to be an > auxloglang, but a relatively poorly designed one with an active user base > has a better chance of success than a relatively well designed one without > an active user base? If so, I guess you'd have to make your own judgement > about the how big the difference in design quality is, how significant the > difference in community size is, and the relative importance of those two in > furthering the auxloglang goal. I have my own views on that, but I won't > blurt them into the middle of the LLG Annual Meeting. > > --And. > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members