Received: from localhost ([::1]:35386 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XyZoK-0004f6-PX; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:27:40 -0800 Received: from mail-qc0-f181.google.com ([209.85.216.181]:51177) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XyZoH-0004ex-HU for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:27:38 -0800 Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id m20so1681513qcx.12 for ; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:27:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=ClI6RJhHdmN668vq3pH6n+GtX3BlSyCPNFn09z4DEBM=; b=coOK5jSXhQS3v6vWz0p6gAcC0NPyCieaahDZ8yd7xlAwUXinlpfeKI0ytIqMaMc4OA 70fIwSqQKUX8r4a5LS+eFsOW43y36F/XNHbcBfCJ9RUx/wF4vMpz9990V2c8gxatfjPK FAfuK96aczNYxA0mSGakzsIei3OFnj/JEqPN3qjL0MORNsfo70ZrRWvmfYTt4YLckSHR EZHSISgNC0pq3Rd7WhsacWYAFfzAtLjuM4WAjspWoK33dY/o6D1NKPByFeYOxwpWc+Cc JeyON/LV5Cx52Nvt4P71WAclj2gFZ8HQLhExedcNSCUq7vXJZBLcRJoN5Au1NUPuZNbh q8WQ== X-Received: by 10.224.79.17 with SMTP id n17mr5048734qak.36.1418189250696; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.120.1.137] (rrcs-184-75-115-252.nyc.biz.rr.com. [184.75.115.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c104sm3251074qgd.30.2014.12.09.21.27.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:27:29 -0800 (PST) From: Riley Martinez-Lynch Message-Id: <3C133C46-17E6-49DB-9EA8-B0AFC16D4B78@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 00:27:30 -0500 To: "llg-members@lojban.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: [Llg-members] .e'o ko sarji lo vreji be fi la lojbangirzu X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5958895284405356230==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============5958895284405356230== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E738BD1C-5982-41BD-BCC9-9965D6980F99" --Apple-Mail=_E738BD1C-5982-41BD-BCC9-9965D6980F99 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii .i mi ckire la .lojbab. lo nu di'a gidva lo nunpe'i .i mi za'u re'u = cpedu lo nu lo cmima be la lojbangirzu cu sarji lo se stidi pe lo vreji = be fi la lojbangirzu In other words, it's been two weeks since Ali moved to recognize these = summaries as minutes: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/LLG+Meeting+Summary+2008 http://www.lojban.org/tiki/LLG+Meeting+Summary+2010 http://www.lojban.org/tiki/LLG+Meeting+Summary+2011 http://www.lojban.org/tiki/LLG+Meeting+Summary+2012 http://www.lojban.org/tiki/LLG+Meeting+Summary+2013 There are now only 3 more days before the motion expires. I think that = the lack of a second is mostly due to the "Bystander Effect" -- "in = which individuals do not offer any means of help ... when other people = are present". Therefore, I am going to renew my plea, personalize it, = and introduce an incentive. > I would welcome it if you would take responsibility for producing = minutes for this meeting. mi ciska .au lo vreji be fi lo ca nunpe'i va'o lo nu sarji lo se stidi = pe lo vreji be fi lo mo'u nunpe'i In case my lojban is inadequate to the task: I would be happy to produce = such minutes, but I ask in return that someone second the motion to = recognize the summaries that I have produced for the previous meetings. Since my plea for "someone" to recognize the summaries has not worked = out so far, I'd like to make a couple of particular suggestions. I would = like to ask lojbab, who has requested on a number of occasions over the = years that such summaries be prepared, to second the motion. I would = also like to ask Timo, who was kind enough to prepare the last minutes = that were recognized -- those for the 2009 meeting. Thank you in advance! mi'e la mukti mu'o= --Apple-Mail=_E738BD1C-5982-41BD-BCC9-9965D6980F99 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii http://www.lojban.org/tiki/LLG+Meeting+Summary+2008<= /div>
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There are now only 3 more days before the = motion expires. I think that the lack of a second is mostly due to the = "Bystander = Effect" -- "in which individuals do not offer any means of help ... = when other people are present". Therefore, I am going to renew my = plea, personalize it, and introduce an = incentive.

I= would welcome it if you would take responsibility for producing minutes = for this meeting.

mi ciska .au = lo vreji be fi lo ca nunpe'i va'o lo nu sarji lo se stidi pe lo = vreji be fi lo mo'u nunpe'i

In case my = lojban is inadequate to the task: I would be happy to produce such = minutes, but I ask in return that someone second the motion to recognize = the summaries that I have produced for the previous = meetings.

Since my plea for "someone" to = recognize the summaries has not worked out so far, I'd like to make a = couple of particular suggestions. I would like to ask lojbab, who = has requested on a number of occasions over the years that such = summaries be prepared, to second the motion. I would also like to = ask Timo, who was kind enough to prepare the last minutes that were = recognized -- those for the 2009 meeting.

Thank = you in advance!

mi'e la mukti = mu'o
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