Received: from localhost ([::1]:49847 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8dVC-0004fs-Nt; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 15:25:30 -0800 Received: from mail-qg0-f45.google.com ([209.85.192.45]:55417) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8dVA-0004eL-9l for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 15:25:29 -0800 Received: by mail-qg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id z107so183912qgd.32 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 15:25:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type; bh=HrlMZGaLIlDeb1ZfERFPhhLhm5dbAFADXv5SrfdkDfg=; b=qritMKPZBjal6tUBpRvjYnkdhmr3truS0+9sMoWeNsdaLYlj4W0p7zqGISM2cCHlNi r1mIVqFNerHQvVtsXz0Vync5gM5opcx4zoGsuHcRgJrLCMN04WHn/vG3uprdhB/pacoa NMaNtMo/dF96KmaDkLPhcAwQsC+9f/d2903EoHJl8c7E6a20tvn+kTJol00f+YV/Im7V NXQeRrIXOA8OA/V2IW25o18FB/vfHxBDDkruN/Qv6d5RRd+1CkF5vo4nXgQtKUkhzopP OyNR5X8ws11TOQcW2lkdLsSf6VAM+0kT0opVnBMKeHjLP1OILYprcMTE8K3GdQ+dZJzC HjPg== X-Received: by 10.224.89.70 with SMTP id d6mr160120665qam.76.1420586713946; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 15:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [2607:f470:6:400d:3007:c819:100::] ([2607:f470:6:400d:7958:cf7b:6fd5:3c07]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 62sm26550293qgj.16.2015.01.06.15.25.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Jan 2015 15:25:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 18:25:12 -0500 From: Alex Burka To: llg-members@lojban.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <54AC6D35.7020602@lojban.org> References: <54ABA9C1.3080605@lojban.org> <0C5FDF6F-95F8-4012-80ED-DB2834908FC6@gmail.com> <54AC6D35.7020602@lojban.org> X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1178) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] John Cowan X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5045193802537858178==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============5045193802537858178== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="54ac6ed8_721487b2_17f" --54ac6ed8_721487b2_17f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If there's a Second LLG planning Lojban from the shadows, I'd sure like to know about it... On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote: > On 1/6/2015 10:55 AM, cowan@ccil.org (mailto:cowan@ccil.org) wrote: > > I don't at all consider myself a founder or Founder, and wouldn't care > > for that title very much. > > > > > You weren't really a "founder" but rather first-among-equals in the > second "wave" - second foundationer: maybe Preem Palver is the proper > title. > > > Back in 1789, the first U.S. Congress was debating what title should > > be given to the President. They kicked around "His Highness", "His > > Excellency", and even "His Elective Majesty", but finally settled on > > "Mr. President", perhaps helped along by the suggestion that the > > Vice President, John Adams, be called "His Superfluous Excellency" > > (he was later known informally as "His Rotundity"). > > > > So let's not take this too seriously. A simple mandatory ".iocai" > > after my name will suffice. :-) > > > > > But that is not a title. If we want to give you a Lojban title, it > should reflect your primary role in the language, maybe la gerna jdice? > It would be your official title, making you in English, the "Official > Lojban Parser". > > (Robin and Nick deserve perpetual Lojban titles > "doi jatna ne lemi jatna") > > -------------------- > > But choosing to be serious, the "title" that I occasionally referred to > you by during your period of activity was in fact our "chief > Grammarian", so perhaps you would accept "Grammarian" as a title both > meaningful and well-earned. > > lojbab > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org (mailto:Llg-members@lojban.org) > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --54ac6ed8_721487b2_17f Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
If there's a Second LLG planning Lojban from the shadows, I'd sure like = to know about it...
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On Tuesday, January 6,= 2015 at 6:18 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and =46ounder - LLG wrote:

On 1/6/2015 10:55 AM, cowan=40ccil.org wrote:
I don't at all consider myself a founder or= =46ounder, and wouldn't care
for that title very much.

You weren't really a =22founder=22 b= ut rather first-among-equals in the
second =22wave=22 - second= foundationer: maybe Preem Palver is the proper
title.
<= div>
Back in 1789, the f= irst U.S. Congress was debating what title should
be given to t= he President. They kicked around =22His Highness=22, =22His
Ex= cellency=22, and even =22His Elective Majesty=22, but finally settled on<= /div>
=22Mr. President=22, perhaps helped along by the suggestion tha= t the
Vice President, John Adams, be called =22His Superfluous = Excellency=22
(he was later known informally as =22His Rotundit= y=22).

So let's not take this too seriously. A = simple mandatory =22.iocai=22
after my name will suffice. :-)<= /div>

But that is not a title. If = we want to give you a Lojban title, it
should reflect your pri= mary role in the language, maybe la gerna jdice=3F
It would = be your official title, making you in English, the =22Official
Lojban Parser=22.

(Robin and Nick deserve perpe= tual Lojban titles
=22doi jatna ne lemi jatna=22)
--------------------

But choosing to= be serious, the =22title=22 that I occasionally referred to
y= ou by during your period of activity was in fact our =22chief
= Grammarian=22, so perhaps you would accept =22Grammarian=22 as a title bo= th
meaningful and well-earned.

lojbab=

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