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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Proposal: after the January 18 IRC meeting is over I propose copying the logs of it to this mailing list so that absent at that meeting members can read it and comment. Here I will repeat all suggestions made by Lojbab (put into one list): 1) if/how we want to advertise and/or promote the new release of CLL 2) whether the Lojban intro book needs to be amended or updated 3) whether we want to seek to publish Nick Nicholas/Robin Turner's textbook via Lightning Source, and whether it needs to be amended/updated (probably at least to include xorlo) 4) what will be the next step(s) following CLL 1.1, recognizing that Robin has indicated his intent to step down as jatna following that republication. This implicitly includes deciding what (if any) will be the future of the byfy, which is clearly not working as intended in the motion that created it (there is no clear membership at this point and will soon be no leader) 5) For those who hasn't already voted: a vote of confidence in Robin's decision-making with respect to the process of CLL republication (CLL 1.1), including those items that he asked about 6) For those who hasn't already voted: authorizing expenditures up to some maximum by Robin or his delegatees for such republication, without need for approval of each such expenditure, up to some specified limit ($1000 to $2000 based on Robin's report), with a final report of such expenditures submitted to the Board. 7) The future of byfy. 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Here I will repeat all suggestions made by Lojbab (put into one list): 1) if/how we want to advertise and/or promote the new release of CLL 2) whether the Lojban intro book needs to be amended or updated 3) whether we want to seek to publish Nick Nicholas/Robin Turner's textbook via Lightning Source, and whether it needs to be amended/updated (probably at least to include xorlo) 4) what will be the next step(s) following CLL 1.1, recognizing that Robin has indicated his intent to step down as jatna following that republication. This implicitly includes deciding what (if any) will be the future of the byfy, which is clearly not working as intended in the motion that created it (there is no clear membership at this point and will soon be no leader) 5) For those who hasn't already voted: a vote of confidence in Robin's decision-making with respect to the process of CLL republication (CLL 1.1), including those items that he asked about 6) For those who hasn't already voted: authorizing expenditures up to some maximum by Robin or his delegatees for such republication, without need for approval of each such expenditure, up to some specified limit ($1000 to $2000 based on Robin's report), with a final report of such expenditures submitted to the Board. 7) The future of byfy. Proposal: if you are sure you won't be able to participate on January 18 2015 I suggest that you share your thoughts NOW in this thread. --bcaec53f33d78dec55050c614cfc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Proposal: after the January 18 IRC meeting is over I propo= se copying the logs of it to this mailing list so that absent at that meeti= ng members can read it and comment.

Here I will repeat a= ll suggestions made by Lojbab (put into one list):
1) if/how= we want to advertise and/or promote the new release of CLL
2) wh= ether the Lojban intro book needs to be amended or updated
3) whe= ther we want to seek to publish Nick Nicholas/Robin Turner's textbook v= ia Lightning Source, and whether it needs to be amended/updated (probably a= t least to include xorlo)
4) what will be the next step(s) follow= ing CLL 1.1, recognizing that Robin has indicated his intent to step down a= s jatna following that republication.=C2=A0 This implicitly includes decidi= ng what (if any) will be the future of the byfy, which is clearly not worki= ng as intended in the motion that created it (there is no clear membership = at this point and will soon be no leader)
5) For those who hasn&#= 39;t already voted: a vote of confidence in Robin's decision-making wit= h respect to the process of CLL republication (CLL 1.1), including those it= ems that he asked about
6) For those who hasn't already voted= :=C2=A0authorizing expenditures up to some maximum by Robin or his delegate= es for such republication, without need for approval of each such expenditu= re, up to some specified limit ($1000 to $2000 based on Robin's report)= , with a final report of such expenditures submitted to the Board.
7) The future of byfy.


Prop= osal: if you are sure you won't be able to participate on January 18 20= 15 I suggest that you share your thoughts NOW in this thread.
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