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Subject: Re: [Llg-members] CLL republication - continuation of the meeting
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ni'o lo se .irci nunpe'i 
.i xu la'ede'u za'o se platu .i pauji'a ma'a pilno la'o .irc. #lojban .irc. noi fadni tcana ji lo drata tcana

re: the IRC meeting
Is this still the plan? And will we be taking over the main #lojban channel or using a different channel?

mu'o mi'e la durkavore 


On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote:

> I have seen no motion regarding Robin's report on CLL republication.
> 
> Could someone make a motion indicating
> 1) a vote of confidence in Robin's decision-making with respect to the 
> process of CLL republication (CLL 1.1), including those items that he 
> asked about
> 2) authorizing expenditures up to some maximum by Robin or his 
> delegatees for such republication, without need for approval of each 
> such expenditure, up to some specified limit (I suggest $1000 to $2000 
> based on Robin's report), with a final report of such expenditures 
> submitted to the Board.
> 
> Proceeding with the meeting.
> 
> Not to be included in such a motion, but worthy of discussion (after 
> dealing with the motion), would be
> 1) if/how we want to advertise and/or promote the new release
> 2) whether the Lojban intro book needs to be amended or updated
> 3) whether we want to seek to publish Nick Nicholas/Robin Turner's 
> textbook via Lightning Source, and whether it needs to be 
> amended/updated (probably at least to include xorlo)
> 4) what will be the next step(s) following CLL 1.1, recognizing that 
> Robin has indicated his intent to step down as jatna following that 
> republication. This implicitly includes deciding what (if any) will be 
> the future of the byfy, which is clearly not working as intended in the 
> motion that created it (there is no clear membership at this point and 
> will soon be no leader)
> 
> Any/all of these topics are open for discussion at this time.
> 
> Depending on how much discussion is desired on the topic of CLL and the 
> future of byfy, I will suggest that we set up a live discussion on IRC 
> at some fixed time. Because of the enormous range of time zones 
> included in the membership, and the especial need to make sure Robin can 
> participate, I am suggesting this live discussion take place on a 
> Sunday. I am proposing 18 January at 8am Pacific Time, which I think is 
> 3PM UT, and lasting for 2-3 hours maximum (if more is needed, additional 
> discussions can be scheduled). This may still not be good for Ali or 
> Oz, but I think that any time good for them will inherently be bad for 
> others.
> 
> Any motions which emerge from a live discussion will be decided as part 
> of the regular order, via email, so as to make sure that no members are 
> excluded from actual decisions.
> 
> Note that we are not waiting until such a discussion period - discussion 
> of these topics can start immediately, but a live session may shorten 
> the needed discussion time enormously because of real time response.
> 
> lojbab
> 
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                <div>
                    ni'o lo se .irci nunpe'i
                </div><div>.i xu la'ede'u za'o se platu .i pauji'a ma'a p=
ilno la'o .irc. =23lojban .irc. noi fadni tcana ji lo drata tcana</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>re: the IRC meeting</div><div>Is this still the plan=3F=
 And will we be taking over the main =23lojban channel or using a differe=
nt channel=3F</div><div><br></div><div>mu'o mi'e la durkavore</div>
                <div></div>
                =20
                <p style=3D=22color: =23A0A0A8;=22>On Saturday, January 1=
0, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Bob LeChevalier, President and =46ounder - LLG wrote=
:</p>
                <blockquote type=3D=22cite=22 style=3D=22border-left-styl=
e:solid;border-width:1px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:10px;=22>
                    <span><div><div><div>I have seen no motion regarding =
Robin's report on CLL republication.</div><div><br></div><div>Could someo=
ne make a motion indicating</div><div>1) a vote of confidence in Robin's =
decision-making with respect to the </div><div>process of CLL republicati=
on (CLL 1.1), including those items that he </div><div>asked about</div><=
div>2) authorizing expenditures up to some maximum by Robin or his </div>=
<div>delegatees for such republication, without need for approval of each=
 </div><div>such expenditure, up to some specified limit (I suggest =2410=
00 to =242000 </div><div>based on Robin's report), with a final report of=
 such expenditures </div><div>submitted to the Board.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Proceeding with the meeting.</div><div><br></div><div>Not to be inc=
luded in such a motion, but worthy of discussion (after </div><div>dealin=
g with the motion), would be</div><div>1) if/how we want to advertise and=
/or promote the new release</div><div>2) whether the Lojban intro book ne=
eds to be amended or updated</div><div>3) whether we want to seek to publ=
ish Nick Nicholas/Robin Turner's </div><div>textbook via Lightning Source=
, and whether it needs to be </div><div>amended/updated (probably at leas=
t to include xorlo)</div><div>4) what will be the next step(s) following =
CLL 1.1, recognizing that </div><div>Robin has indicated his intent to st=
ep down as jatna following that </div><div>republication.  This implicitl=
y includes deciding what (if any) will be </div><div>the future of the by=
fy, which is clearly not working as intended in the </div><div>motion tha=
t created it (there is no clear membership at this point and </div><div>w=
ill soon be no leader)</div><div><br></div><div>Any/all of these topics a=
re open for discussion at this time.</div><div><br></div><div>Depending o=
n how much discussion is desired on the topic of CLL and the </div><div>f=
uture of byfy, I will suggest that we set up a live discussion on IRC </d=
iv><div>at some fixed time.  Because of the enormous range of time zones =
</div><div>included in the membership, and the especial need to make sure=
 Robin can </div><div>participate, I am suggesting this live discussion t=
ake place on a </div><div>Sunday.  I am proposing 18 January at 8am Pacif=
ic Time, which I think is </div><div>3PM UT, and lasting for 2-3 hours ma=
ximum (if more is needed, additional </div><div>discussions can be schedu=
led).  This may still not be good for Ali or </div><div>Oz, but I think t=
hat any time good for them will inherently be bad for </div><div>others.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Any motions which emerge from a live discussion =
will be decided as part </div><div>of the regular order, via email, so as=
 to make sure that no members are </div><div>excluded from actual decisio=
ns.</div><div><br></div><div>Note that we are not waiting until such a di=
scussion period - discussion </div><div>of these topics can start immedia=
tely, but a live session may shorten </div><div>the needed discussion tim=
e enormously because of real time response.</div><div><br></div><div>lojb=
ab</div><div><br></div><div>=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=
=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=
=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F</div><div>Llg-members mailing list</div><div><a hre=
f=3D=22mailto:Llg-members=40lojban.org=22>Llg-members=40lojban.org</a></d=
iv><div><a href=3D=22http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members=22=
>http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members</a></div></div></div=
></span>
                =20
                =20
                =20
                =20
                </blockquote>
                =20
                <div>
                    <br>
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