Received: from localhost ([::1]:54460 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YDZZl-0002tn-NI; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 06:14:37 -0800 Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net ([68.230.241.216]:34646) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YDZZj-0002tg-9X for llg-members@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 06:14:36 -0800 Received: from eastrmimpo109 ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150120141429.SWUV26120.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo109> for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:14:29 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.248.61]) by eastrmimpo109 with cox id iEEU1p0071LDWBL01EEU91; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:14:28 -0500 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.54BE62C4.0389,ss=1,re=0.001,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Y70mRGiN c=1 sm=1 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:17 a=4Y1Az08UtVsA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=f4jGXqvpAAAA:8 a=XCLmvO3dGJegGL4fZRcA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=GzmqVuKPVIsA:10 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-ID: <54BE62C4.3070807@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:14:28 -0500 From: "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" Organization: The Logical Language Group, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-members@lojban.org References: <0CD5A578A47549238B8B046A01B8846C@gmail.com> <54BCF147.1080803@lojban.org> <54BCFC70.2010805@selpahi.de> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.8 X-Spam_score_int: 8 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: On 1/19/2015 8:12 PM, And Rosta wrote: > > My usage of the term "language" conforms to the definition of the term > > in model theory: > > http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FormalLanguage.html > > Yes, I know, but that's the very notion of "language" that infects > 'loglinguistics' and has done no end of damage to Lojban. Lojban was > created by people who knew about formal languages, but knew nothing > about human languages, and failed to realize that they have nothing in > common apart from being polysemes of the same English word. [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in lojban.org.rhsbl.ahbl.org. IN] [A] 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: wolfram.com] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [68.230.241.216 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders Subject: Re: [Llg-members] nu ningau so'u se jbovlaste / updating a few jbovlaste entries X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org On 1/19/2015 8:12 PM, And Rosta wrote: > > My usage of the term "language" conforms to the definition of the term > > in model theory: > > http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FormalLanguage.html > > Yes, I know, but that's the very notion of "language" that infects > 'loglinguistics' and has done no end of damage to Lojban. Lojban was > created by people who knew about formal languages, but knew nothing > about human languages, and failed to realize that they have nothing in > common apart from being polysemes of the same English word. Since I know nothing much about formal languages, and know something (not much) about human languages, and I am one of the creators of Lojban, your claim is false. (The above-cited definition of "formal language has never entered into my considerations regarding Lojban, even if others are making use of it). JCB almost certainly knew even less about formal languages than I do. lojbab _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members