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On 4/6/2015 7:17 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> 2015-04-06 13:46 GMT+03:00 selpahi <selpahi@selpahi.de
> <mailto:selpahi@selpahi.de>>:
>
>     la .lojbab. cu cusku di'e
>
>         I am not ready to hear motions on other New Business topics
>         until the
>         byfy vote is done.  But we do have a few items to consider before
>         (finally) closing the meeting.  Please hold off a few days so that
>         the other stuff is completed before discussions start.
>
>
>     I just remembered (and I hope it's not too late) Riley's idea of a
>     an annual lojbanic award. He proposes to:
>
>         Reinforce the relationship of LLG to the lojban-using community by
>         instituting an annual honor for lojbanic achievement. Nominees could
>         be submitted by members and non-members in the weeks following the
>         announcement of the annual meeting, and then voted upon by the
>         membership at the annual meeting.
>
>
>     I think this is a good idea and that it could motivate people as
>     well as give back something to those who pour their heart and soul
>     into this language. It could also be considered whether there should
>     be different "categories" of awards, for different kinds of lojbanic
>     achievements.
>
>
> mw.lojban.org <http://mw.lojban.org>  used to have such awards as
> lo spofu gusni balji -
> http://mw.lojban.org/images/awards/1_l.jpg?r=989237730
> lo blabi cakla ladru -
> http://mw.lojban.org/images/awards/2_l.jpg?r=135699764

I completely missed this proposal for some reason.  It isn't too late, 
mostly because I haven't been online much the last few days in order to 
close off the meeting.  If someone wants to make a specific motion, it 
would be useful.

>     Also, Riley suggested to:
>
>         Open the "llg-members" archives to the public. If there is a need
>         for confidential members-only communication, create a separate list
>         for that rather than defaulting to that level of privacy.
>
>
>     (as well as possibly opening the board archives)
>
> some people didn't want their true names to become public (apart from
> what can even be interesting here since almost no conversations in
> Lojban here).

For those years for which there exist no minutes for the members 
meetings because the list traffic itself is supposed to be in lieu of 
minutes, we are in fact required by law to make the archives public, 
because meeting minutes are required to be available to the public. 
(technically, there is supposed to be a "minutes book" here at my house 
which is the official business location, containing copies of all the 
minutes since day 1 of the organization, so they don't have to be 
public, so much as theoretically available to the public).

The board meetings were closed because of the duties of the Board might 
require that Board members say impolitic or even personal things about 
active people, and Nick Nicolas indicated that he would not be willing 
to serve on a Board if he couldn't speak impolitically.  There is also 
the possibility that the Board might have to discuss personnel matters, 
which are usually considered private.  The need to protect privacy, as I 
understand it, is even more important legally in Europe and other 
countries than in the US.

Voting members do not have the right to have their real names kept 
private.  This is implicit in the legal requirements for open records. 
(This is another flaw with using archives in lieu of minutes).

lojbab


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