Received: from localhost ([::1]:50332 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YgrqT-0000qq-QH; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 02:36:57 -0700 Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net ([68.230.241.217]:50395) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YgrqQ-0000qb-4M for llg-members@lojban.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 02:36:55 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo109 ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150411093648.IHVB20038.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo109> for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 05:36:48 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.242.63]) by eastrmimpo109 with cox id EZcn1q0041Nn1eG01ZcnLV; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 05:36:47 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.5528EB2F.015F,ss=1,re=0.001,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=EpUMW1gA c=1 sm=1 a=sOxKrxY1QYXBcFVBIkZEyQ==:17 a=JJ1bDv3c7YsA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=OwrND0W2bLU5nb85hO4A:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=sOxKrxY1QYXBcFVBIkZEyQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-ID: <5528EB5B.40901@lojban.org> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 05:37:31 -0400 From: "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" Organization: The Logical Language Group, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-members@lojban.org References: <55283D76.2050606@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Detailed Proposal of a Project Manager X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org On 4/11/2015 1:43 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > That is in fact the problem with the Project Manager approach as I > see it. The projects to be managed are generally amorphous, and > seldom have more than one person actually working on them at any one > time, so there is nothing to "manage". Very seldom have we had a > project attract multiple volunteers who actually get around to doing > something, and indeed most of the time, even the initial volunteer > forgets that they did so, until asked to report on progress a year > later. > > The intermittent postings by Pierre on trying to set up a Logfest > are the height of activity, and yet no one is making enough of a > commitment to actually make any decisions, not that it is clear who > would make any decisions, should they be needed, since no one made > any motions on the subject in this meeting, and the Board is inactive. > > Okay, so you think that only IRL activity counts. Not hardly. It is just that I have no basis to estimate other forms of activity that might represent things getting done cooperatively (i.e. multiple people working together on a single task. > The same is true for the NooLearning support effort. We have no > leadership, and no volunteers. > > If you mean their online tool I don't know what kind of leadership is > needed. Me either. They haven't been too clear as to their needs. > A few days ago they sent a message that the tool would be ready > in a few weeks for testing by contributors. And at least I am going to > test and then contribute. I've sent them an email in response to that message, asking him for more clarity on what he needs us to do. lojbab _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members