Received: from localhost ([::1]:34915 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YiJOv-0007p3-HA; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 02:14:29 -0700 Received: from mail-qk0-f172.google.com ([209.85.220.172]:35752) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YiJOo-0007or-4f for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 02:14:27 -0700 Received: by qkhg7 with SMTP id g7so72073277qkh.2 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 02:14:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ByY0Y4BWaSdfd5G09IgqaZt4PKvyXKrCXjvWJUAaAJE=; b=OSUjE4qF29kz+0UG79qQt40D4p1agXOkPzWVQiYENGvtOQPy8XlqJpDB1uhbEGV8sM bDfAYqRQUwEuoCxXgqA0hPTGF1WjjQcTqxpa7oDlGwumAz7hYhEIit/ahsXHgNiZ6A/R mHdlTr+HXaaE4fQ8xx7mZuvAcJ0G2G8K1tYpZMywb6v3TqBZWruDp1Au9/8VEIIiI+KB 5BR6Dqf9f9+6WCWIig+FIK3kBNIYXXsoe35iUoEN2xkuIXRjfJqy4h4SiA5mnrcppwru EfifnqNpnGGqNradS7CzirRda9HDANbpHabQ2ACoeHjFZ8PaILVHGFUer1PI8W1PheB+ brkg== X-Received: by 10.182.250.134 with SMTP id zc6mr20089457obc.78.1429089236328; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 02:13:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.166.201 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 02:13:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5502321A.2050208@lojban.org> <551ADCFF.20709@lojban.org> <552CA608.50200@lojban.org> <552D0CC2.7080502@selpahi.de> <552DA91A.8090207@lojban.org> From: guskant Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 18:13:36 +0900 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] New Business: other topics X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org 2015-04-15 15:33 GMT+09:00 Gleki Arxokuna : > > 2015-04-15 5:46 GMT+03:00 guskant : >> >> I don't at all agree to la gleki's alternate idea that a >> non-periodical news feed would be enough. > > > Did I say non-periodical? > I meant a website where a committee would publish high-quality papers with > finished solutions (that are of course still can be discussed further). So sa'unai you said this: 2015-04-01 3:01 GMT+09:00 Gleki Arxokuna : > Looks like magazines are declining in their popularity in general. That can > explain why people aren't very interested in them. > These days people are more used to short pieces of information, not lengthy > magazines or books. > An appropriate format is to be found, maybe something like a newsfeed where > you get new articles one by one, not complete issues. or just a blog where > you can subscribe only to articles marked with certain tags and where > articles are premoderated thus preventing mailing list rants and mess of > unsolved issues. Thus in such a newsfeed you will get a stream of high > quality articles with final (not initial) opinions of proficient Lojbanists. > My suggestion was "a periodical, maybe annual" and did not mention the length of each article. As you didn't agree, I thought you meant a news feed that reads occasional posts on variety of websites like forums or blogs. > it'd rather be a magazine, yes. I just don't know how it could be > implemented technically. Maybe just add wiki pages that can't be edited by > non-admins, with links to mailing list threads where they can be further > discussed, with tags (categories) so that they can be easily sorted out, > with "Share" links to social networks. Creating physical paper issues out of > them wouldn't be a serious problem of course. > Do you have accounts of closed social networks like QQ in PRC, Niconico or LINE in Japan? Most activities of PRC are executed on QQ. As for Niconico and LINE, I don't have acconts with them because I hate closed Japanese societies, generally. It is difficult to get in touch with those closed ones automatically with informatic technologies. We need to make contact with those people, and draw directly from them information about their fruits and needs. Even if you get somehow information automatically from those communities, do you think a machine translator would give us understandable texts in Lojban or in English enough to be inserted into a magazine? I don't think so. I prefer that people should express their fruits and needs with their own words in their language and in Lojban. mu'o _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members