Received: from localhost ([::1]:49489 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YikSV-0002VM-Rk; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 07:08:00 -0700 Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com ([209.85.212.180]:38134) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YikSJ-0002VC-A8 for llg-members@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 07:07:51 -0700 Received: by wiun10 with SMTP id n10so98640831wiu.1 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 07:07:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=otcXWQhy2BnS0Irhy7AjNfXEoZwxhPNZTikxE3xhePA=; b=e6OLdQ2ixD7PFmccduuHtTwqchtOzQ/OCISnc/4x0FASSk2aM2H7Sycli3s21DEp5z gYK/BtAHAJDfJUklCEdRIgAQqgsWkdXTEMdRJWYFOXADQYeeUY6LxwKpfS4uzVgN68q8 05f6hnWgusITc2CagOnxqJAG5mZ2ksyAYjG2tw2lxTxVyaPPjV9lZmwTRITNT6TkaKjf lIsZIDJB7b5ZFcHPA95ah768voAvJfHNNyxJ0KUc11ayDmSKyQSVelgTS4dcwz1jQA+X c6VlmIftkMC10N7B2LcCW0UffMavC5eKp7sEgxi3ZNiRjf8gpv7h0g/UrWLS6W4TpsO+ ZJGg== X-Received: by 10.180.231.41 with SMTP id td9mr509375wic.69.1429193260343; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 07:07:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.240.197 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 07:07:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5502321A.2050208@lojban.org> <551ADCFF.20709@lojban.org> <552CA608.50200@lojban.org> <552D0CC2.7080502@selpahi.de> <552DA91A.8090207@lojban.org> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 17:07:19 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] New Business: other topics X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6964221993353437694==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============6964221993353437694== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134c5cc9927180513d7fc74 --001a1134c5cc9927180513d7fc74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2015-04-16 15:58 GMT+03:00 And Rosta : > > If this doesn't happen then you only have a sketch of a language and > never it can be understood from its design if it can be used or not until > you enter data into it. > > In my expert opinion your opinion is incorrect. Without usage tests it is > possible to determine some ways in which the design fails, and it is > possible to at least make highly informed estimates about some ways in > which it succeeds. > Okay, what are the example known from history? --001a1134c5cc9927180513d7fc74 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= 2015-04-16 15:58 GMT+03:00 And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com>= :

> If= this doesn't happen then you only have a sketch of a language and neve= r it can be understood from its design if it can be used or not until you e= nter data into it.

In my expert opinion your opinion is incorrect. Witho= ut usage tests it is possible to determine=C2=A0 some ways in which the des= ign fails, and it is possible to at least make highly informed estimates ab= out some ways in which it succeeds.


Okay, what ar= e the example known from history?
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