Received: from localhost ([::1]:34050 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org)
	by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.85)
	(envelope-from <llg-members-bounces@lojban.org>)
	id 1ZrmMR-0005N9-90; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:31:19 -0700
Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com ([209.85.212.172]:35374)
 by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128)
 (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>)
 id 1ZrmLs-0005M1-Kg
 for llg-members@lojban.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:31:17 -0700
Received: by wicll6 with SMTP id ll6so226296817wic.0
 for <llg-members@lojban.org>; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:30:38 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
 h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type;
 bh=TaWadmEJwL6S5W07hanQcyquq7EuvFe2baIfSNAmCBI=;
 b=pzBcAMfIkOm3rIM5bNcnaVGisrwe5EATA+hFW0WhLkWmAU+JB+WmTanXcdO5fkauBu
 LyYcCRO9fEjXMtWHF98BDykdyYhLLgKmpRcaGON6NBtv5j08uYk8rf1qTFs3SobiD+4b
 5kaciWvT3N8uvU4beJw4JvqpMpKXka/hrR7xxuiZNU+5RCoEnrY+jdYZ1hOOXU0Q0xw7
 MPKj2WAea1zQwkle5bwNqI0JgWVFo8SlxDmq/NjWSL4qABEP4XKbdn/8tX3qY1tH0dGz
 Dd2/bqSeAB0qCiIWKYen+zdujQMVri9pozU1z+ihsLzBFh6u8LqyJFrmF5jOYnQYwC1Z
 EfDg==
X-Received: by 10.194.190.47 with SMTP id gn15mr2113905wjc.119.1446121838160; 
 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:30:38 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.194.151.194 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:29:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:29:58 +0300
Message-ID: <CAO7bV+g8TNAyQMHeWHsR8an-zvJEB9h3J_J_JNCV21kBFR6p3A@mail.gmail.com>
To: llg-members@lojban.org
X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--)
X-Spam_score: -2.0
X-Spam_score_int: -19
X-Spam_bar: --
Subject: [Llg-members] The proposed solution to "How to say X in Lojban?"
X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20
Precedence: list
List-Id: <llg-members.lojban.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/options/llg-members>,
 <mailto:llg-members-request@lojban.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/private/llg-members/>
List-Post: <mailto:llg-members@lojban.org>
List-Help: <mailto:llg-members-request@lojban.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members>,
 <mailto:llg-members-request@lojban.org?subject=subscribe>
Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3682131532244769451=="
Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org

--===============3682131532244769451==
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0c86e7762f605233d7a72

--047d7bf0c86e7762f605233d7a72
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I'm not going to post this to the main mailing list since only fluent
speakers of Lojban are eligible to participate in this project.

llg-members list seems like a good filter.

So now I have a list of English tatoeba.org sentences tagged as "OK" and
not yet translated to Lojban (and I'm able to generate similar lists on
demand at any time).
The total number is 79'000.
We can translate any of them.
Later I can upload translated sentences via a script.

Who wants to join me to get editing permissions?

Raise up your hand.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1soVhmb64SdqZfnJ6YET0qaaycpmLol5J2U-Q4aCgfGM/edit#gid=0


I must point out that this spreadsheet is the ultimate frontier we have by
far in achieving the goal of "How do I say X in Lojban?".

If we get a list of several dozens thousands of premade translations to
Lojban then this problem is naturally eliminated. Newcomers will be able to
learn Lojban passively, not by drilling the grammar hard.

The project is free, later high-quality translations can be exported to
whatever you wish.
One similar export already exists in the form of la muplis
<https://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/i/muplis/index.html#sisku/how%20long>
.

--047d7bf0c86e7762f605233d7a72
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>I&#39;m not going to post this to the main maili=
ng list since only fluent speakers of Lojban are eligible to participate in=
 this project.</div><div><br></div><div>llg-members list seems like a good =
filter.</div><div><br></div><div>So now I have a list of English <a href=3D=
"http://tatoeba.org" target=3D"_blank">tatoeba.org</a> sentences tagged as =
&quot;OK&quot; and not yet translated to Lojban (and I&#39;m able to genera=
te similar lists on demand at any time).</div><div>The total number is 79&#=
39;000.</div><div>We can translate any of them.</div><div>Later I can uploa=
d translated sentences via a script.</div><div><br></div><div>Who wants to =
join me to get editing permissions?<br></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><=
div>Raise up your hand. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"https://docs.go=
ogle.com/spreadsheets/d/1soVhmb64SdqZfnJ6YET0qaaycpmLol5J2U-Q4aCgfGM/edit#g=
id=3D0">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1soVhmb64SdqZfnJ6YET0qaaycpm=
Lol5J2U-Q4aCgfGM/edit#gid=3D0</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0</div><div>I must point out th=
at this spreadsheet is the ultimate frontier we have by far in achieving th=
e goal of &quot;How do I say X in Lojban?&quot;.</div></div><div><br></div>=
<div>If we get a list of several dozens thousands of premade translations t=
o Lojban then this problem is naturally eliminated. Newcomers will be able =
to learn Lojban passively, not by drilling the grammar hard.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>The project is free, later high-quality translations can be expo=
rted to whatever you wish.</div><div>One similar export already exists in t=
he form of <a href=3D"https://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/i/muplis/i=
ndex.html#sisku/how%20long">la muplis</a>.</div></div>

--047d7bf0c86e7762f605233d7a72--


--===============3682131532244769451==
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

_______________________________________________
Llg-members mailing list
Llg-members@lojban.org
http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members

--===============3682131532244769451==--