Received: from localhost ([::1]:55847 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuiJI-0000WX-CU; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 06:48:12 -0800 Received: from cracksucht.de ([148.251.217.217]:56132 helo=pb.cracksucht.de) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuiJB-0000WJ-VP for llg-members@lojban.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 06:48:10 -0800 To: llg-members@lojban.org From: "selpahi, Chair of the BPFK" Message-ID: <563CBDA4.5080308@selpahi.de> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 15:48:04 +0100 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: [Llg-members] BPFK 2015 Report X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org After its reauthorization earlier this year, the BPFK took up its work at the end of July. I began by initiating a general discussion about BPFK's working language and its voting mechanisms, and the membership quickly came to an agreement to hold all discussions in Lojban and vaguely agreed that looser voting rules should be preferred and agreed tentatively on a >50% majority rule. We also talked a bit about how membership ought to be handled. Right now, anyone can become a member just by announcing it but is expected to be able to participate in conversations in Lojban. Members who don't take part in discussions or who don't vote over a certain period of time become dormant or are automatically excluded from the BPFK until they re-join. Since then, the BPFK has discussed several topics, and has voted on making "Dotside" official. Of the 8 BPFK members, there were 7 votes in favor and 1 abstention. The abstention was by And Rosta, and I'm sure he would have voted in favor had he been asked explicitly; And has said that he can't easily read Lojban anymore, so he probably simply didn't know there was a vote. The results of the vote are also recorded here: https://mw.lojban.org/papri/BPFK_Section:_cmevla The Lojban-speaking community has been informed of this update and has reacted quite positively. It should also be noted that the BPFK list is not the only place where language documentation/definition questions are being discussed: IRC is another important one, especially for informal discussions, both for members and non-members. Still, actual voting, when necessary, is done on the BPFK list. BPFK has a long list of topics to work through, many of them listed here: https://mw.lojban.org/papri/BPFK_To-Do Some of the items on that list are more important or urgent than others, because of the planned new edition of the CLL. The CLL project itself is not bound to the BPFK (indeed, the main contributor right now is not a member of BPFK!), but the BPFK is needed to sort of out most of the questions regarding the CLL. I am happy to inform the membership that work on an updated CLL has begun and quite a few errata have been corrected (https://mw.lojban.org/papri/CLL,_aka_Reference_Grammar,_Errata), and it has been updated to reflect the newly approved Dotside rule. A more thorough discussion of the CLL work can be had in a separate thread, if needed. The most important and most difficult update at this point is xorlo. It will demand a lot of careful thinking to properly xorlo-ify the CLL while still giving each gadri a fair amount of coverage, {lo} being so predominant in most modern Lojban usage. As for how to actually describe xorlo from a logical point of view, guskant has done a phenomenal job in her write-up on the logic of Lojban gadri, which can be found here: https://mw.lojban.org/papri/gadri:_an_unofficial_commentary_from_a_logical_point_of_view Most people here are hopefully already familiar with that write-up. Many people agree that it would make a good basis for a CLL chapter. This is all I have to report for now; I want to stress that the BPFK is in a *much* better state now than it has been in many years. There is actually a sense of "We can do things!" now, though as always, time, energy, and good ol' laziness are limiting factors. BPFK's To-Do list being as big as it is, I am hoping that more BPFK members will begin to initiate discussions on their own, instead of waiting for me to do it. The BPFK has very capable members, and I have full confidence in their (our) ability to handle the tasks we are confronted with. _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members