Received: from localhost ([::1]:57429 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZulqN-0002Ck-PR; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 10:34:35 -0800 Received: from mail-io0-f169.google.com ([209.85.223.169]:34790) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZulqG-0002Cc-Nx for llg-members@lojban.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 10:34:33 -0800 Received: by iody8 with SMTP id y8so130513892iod.1 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 10:34:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UXclAd3xuEethwzEl36j6uDZy13YbrveY7WfgLbtpHg=; b=EreaKCQgcBhYqNmmsM73Xx6MHNEq/0EL8Q8RDKi9n7F2g68Qj+p3+rphTsTbgq77kc oAaWoJpEuxmG1D7bseMUWn9BPO9Hw6BbleKDDwYPU/ou7rLVDWTtZ3lhm4ucPa/2Z9a7 tnNmiF9mnv24RnlbP4jzgq3jTCEr72QDcn0pp+AMBwP7mYMALS6N0f2XTCLClR0PZhzv Lxszbdcvozdsv6XW27akVZDVR6o48nZOXGThOGCepm3crdEsxtoO8oN0EyaRAeZI+80J RawXZPZt2VWzQxdUjCKofSzj/cuox23sOD/vJwNYPF/chQP2GS2eApT2OCIaaVq2B8mt fWjw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.12.193 with SMTP id 62mr17171926iom.173.1446834862943; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 10:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.85.200 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.85.200 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:34:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <563CBDA4.5080308@selpahi.de> References: <563CBDA4.5080308@selpahi.de> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 18:34:22 +0000 Message-ID: From: And Rosta To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] BPFK 2015 Report X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5522737170261103273==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============5522737170261103273== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113fbd420df6c30523e37e69 --001a113fbd420df6c30523e37e69 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Congratulations, Selpahi & BPFK! This is where we should have been 15--20 years ago, & it's great that at last after so prolonged a collective failure to make progress beyond the admittedly crucial step of embracing xorlo, you're leading the effort to get us to the goal. And great to think that CLL will be revised in line with Guskant's gadri exposition. On 6 Nov 2015 14:48, "selpahi, Chair of the BPFK" wrote: > > Right now, anyone can become a member just by announcing it but is expected to be able to participate in conversations in Lojban. Members who don't take part in discussions or who don't vote over a certain period of time become dormant or are automatically excluded from the BPFK until they re-join. > > Since then, the BPFK has discussed several topics, and has voted on making "Dotside" official. Of the 8 BPFK members, there were 7 votes in favor and 1 abstention. The abstention was by And Rosta, and I'm sure he would have voted in favor had he been asked explicitly; And has said that he can't easily read Lojban anymore, so he probably simply didn't know there was a vote. I think my BPFK membership can be considered lapsed due to my nonparticipation, which is indeed because I just can't afford the time to read Lojban (I've forgotten most of my vocab). I support the decision to discuss in Lojban. --And. --001a113fbd420df6c30523e37e69 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Congratulations, Selpahi & BPFK! This is where we should= have been 15--20 years ago, & it's great that at last after so pro= longed a collective failure to make progress beyond the admittedly crucial = step of embracing xorlo, you're leading the effort to get us to the goa= l. And great to think that CLL will be revised in line with Guskant's g= adri exposition.

On 6 Nov 2015 14:48, "selpahi, Chair of the BPFK" = <selpahi@selpahi.de> wrote:=
>
> Right now, anyone can become a member just by announcing it but is exp= ected to be able to participate in conversations in Lojban. Members who don= 't take part in discussions or who don't vote over a certain period= of time become dormant or are automatically excluded from the BPFK until t= hey re-join.
>
> Since then, the BPFK has discussed several topics, and has voted on ma= king "Dotside" official. Of the 8 BPFK members, there were 7 vote= s in favor and 1 abstention. The abstention was by And Rosta, and I'm s= ure he would have voted in favor had he been asked explicitly; And has said= that he can't easily read Lojban anymore, so he probably simply didn&#= 39;t know there was a vote.

I think my BPFK membership can be considered lapsed due to m= y nonparticipation, which is indeed because I just can't afford the tim= e to read Lojban (I've forgotten most of my vocab). I support the decis= ion to discuss in Lojban.

--And.

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