Received: from localhost ([::1]:48159 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aZEa0-00072F-Id; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 01:20:56 -0800 Received: from mail-lb0-f173.google.com ([209.85.217.173]:36300) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aZEZp-00070G-JE for llg-members@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 01:20:50 -0800 Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id x1so43297674lbj.3 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 01:20:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=BoLhXOiBVUHYWemPDMbXjOygG1tac+tLa1zooBrerYc=; b=taMY8FpzNIxJyCEQnLq42acLl+WGifmW/IUliJXaVVbPthnIu+KhmoI+mAajYA0o/l kFdDy2zR6RPoUF3MSZayqMX4yd/sXvZVuKezLUiJizfCc4NKwcCg1dXGZk4mgQke2a/d G788epkowpauPAoCRborScRIxHekNCqpQZG3yQRFeHKFfUmoQy33nPcUQi2UWwnCwVi9 JSY30ZRa368Gm4U8dyiJCTZ9zUNfBC9Kg3EoI4KbQy3M0h610PLHs4RVRMztsGRAZ9ss J4U+jBBQOcAJvW/OiUnWiCff6Vx9dECvplaaaa+xXvJh3/H5Wo5Gtd8KeaiuYyApxCCX zuiQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=BoLhXOiBVUHYWemPDMbXjOygG1tac+tLa1zooBrerYc=; b=lljSjhKU63k4dizJcMVhHT9h51qyxdfBAYiv/+j7qIsm5k++MXbH3IVgU5ao0y7ii2 GATEzmL0JpssJqgrfQwybqdCv5AgJmZeq67a8khPJSwjD7C6WhU0c7qLOUWHVQrFAXNg pzdRWrfkhEP4mTEIO/KXwuNA5y2F5+Bt+7VBHO7/PytmE9ZQ5IPZCL20DdK4irnNsnQM FPkyORsb49yNj/MpRxpSTXeqcUOjzD0QZhvrhKOApj3gwicoO71vzvYt23lFF2HPeFIN f3cuzsxIRmxLVj3ZRx3U8W7qUiTHiyIg0q019H5/Jb6nxSI3tyLEj/iKzIZZEDFkBqBd DkDg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIDezEQPm5nGOjzvIxt3VCL6GUdIXgh3SSTR369nbh/W1k4IVEr3YZN38WCAixMUSNbOXE+ex5KolyWOg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.67.1 with SMTP id j1mr161196lbt.103.1456478438214; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 01:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.25.40.193 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 01:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.25.40.193 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 01:20:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56D014CD.3070104@lojban.org> References: <8BCCD0E2-E6D4-4687-9D89-D177E69E1259@gmail.com> <56C1998B.5050005@lojban.org> <82DDFA36-4BF2-44E7-AF8A-8A810E50EE0A@gmail.com> <56CCA114.90203@lojban.org> <56CF474A.4030009@lojban.org> <56D014CD.3070104@lojban.org> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 09:20:38 +0000 Message-ID: From: And Rosta To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] LLG Annual Meeting - Board Election X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7712222002404751961==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============7712222002404751961== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11347b0eeed73d052ca8cfd1 --001a11347b0eeed73d052ca8cfd1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I infer the general pall of silence over the composition and activities of the Board and its officers to evidence a view that these things are of little importance, and by implication, that the more significant stuff goes on in other forums. Doubtless if someone with commitment, energy and a talent for leadership, such as the younger Lojbab, were to appear at some point in the future, they could contribute their talents through the Board, but until then it looks like the Board will just tick over for purposes of satisfying legal requirements. And On 26 Feb 2016 09:03, "Bob LeChevalier" wrote: > On 2/26/2016 1:07 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > >> >> 2016-02-25 21:26 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier > >: >> >> I am becoming seriously discouraged whether LLG can survive as an >> organization once I no longer lead it. I'm not entirely sure that >> enough people care, despite the discussions a few weeks ago on >> trying to organize activities and means for different Lojban >> communities to communicate and interact. >> >> It depends on how you imagine the leadership and what kind of activities >> you have in mind. >> > > I've posted on that topic (my essay/presidents report at the start of the > meeting), and urged others to also post (during my several weeks of silence > and ill-health). > > I'm less than satisfied with what others posted as far as addressing that > topic, and far too few of the two dozen members posted anything at all. It > would be nice if more people wanted to talk about what LLG leadership > should be and what we want/need/expect LLG to do (and what we personally > are willing to contribute to actually doing it). > > But that needs to be clearly separated from the Board election posting, > and written (non-technically) for the members who are not particularly > aware of what is currently being done, or how, or by whom. > > I'm having trouble running the meeting, and people want it to move on (and > get done before it is time to start the next meeting). I made one post to > try to respond to you and others who did address the topic of what LLG > should be doing, if only to show that I at least had read what people > said. But we need to close that discussion, or at least mark it as > distinctively not part of the regular order of the meeting, and get a Board > elected. > > lojbab > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --001a11347b0eeed73d052ca8cfd1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I infer the general pall of silence over the composition and= activities of the Board and its officers to evidence a view that these thi= ngs are of little importance, and by implication, that the more significant= stuff goes on in other forums. Doubtless if someone with commitment, energ= y and a talent for leadership, such as the younger Lojbab, were to appear a= t some point in the future, they could contribute their talents through the= Board, but until then it looks like the Board will just tick over for purp= oses of satisfying legal requirements.

And

On 26 Feb 2016 09:03, "Bob LeChevalier"= ; <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:=
On 2/26/2016 1:07 A= M, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:

2016-02-25 21:26 GMT+03:00 Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org
<mailto:lojbab@lo= jban.org>>:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I am becoming seriously discouraged whether LLG can survive a= s an
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 organization once I no longer lead it.=C2=A0 I'm not enti= rely sure that
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 enough people care, despite the discussions a few weeks ago o= n
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 trying to organize activities and means for different Lojban<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 communities to communicate and interact.

It depends on how you imagine the leadership and what kind of activities you have in mind.

I've posted on that topic (my essay/presidents report at the start of t= he meeting), and urged others to also post (during my several weeks of sile= nce and ill-health).

I'm less than satisfied with what others posted as far as addressing th= at topic, and far too few of the two dozen members posted anything at all.= =C2=A0 It would be nice if more people wanted to talk about what LLG leader= ship should be and what we want/need/expect LLG to do (and what we personal= ly are willing to contribute to actually doing it).

But that needs to be clearly separated from the Board election posting, and= written (non-technically) for the members who are not particularly aware o= f what is currently being done, or how, or by whom.

I'm having trouble running the meeting, and people want it to move on (= and get done before it is time to start the next meeting).=C2=A0 I made one= post to try to respond to you and others who did address the topic of what= LLG should be doing, if only to show that I at least had read what people = said.=C2=A0 But we need to close that discussion, or at least mark it as di= stinctively not part of the regular order of the meeting, and get a Board e= lected.

lojbab

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