Received: from localhost ([::1]:49766 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1asFPl-0007mW-Vl; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:04:58 -0700 Received: from mail-ig0-f170.google.com ([209.85.213.170]:37782) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1asFPg-0007le-4O for llg-members@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:04:56 -0700 Received: by mail-ig0-f170.google.com with SMTP id g8so90207306igr.0 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:04:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=h8cti5idQiojQv/GzCAC0zCfEuWwg02/HGYqCJRXw5o=; b=qVWRF+h6YjQQPaHQYCUyx5jROMjkJE95MQh7vBe4mJViOxBPnKMMOTZPqd04MYG2iS 3W+lwO3R+hG5WrJ+DVwR4fpRFcTkIW4PBmQk1it57n/C5c7YgRFBhyP10YflNQie+5Ly GjOzKrGZyJGQtH9+ACYe4sDx0QmR0tnzTwB4t4WKYgWIuJVnXhXIzVZ4/74otq0jA5Ae pnFrAhF7WlERYo6LPM1gLNQjTFrJ82UWBTcHT/w1ilgaZr2Na5b3A0fH9H5XNYsv7+WI Hzet0gx4TEpe4MeYrueGuNX2qIoQxrmMexJhlbRTk4sKtM1pq9NFw9krV81ONQrdz0xf 83mw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=h8cti5idQiojQv/GzCAC0zCfEuWwg02/HGYqCJRXw5o=; b=O9fmPLmyBIoirfALBpoXh8FkXrmamjJVh/Mj3JAXTBlJSyMMTpmxLKuviUDOYQ9V57 kji35L10qCyeXNTIiwcw45a/NWs1b54I/MmvqdLD50I7gI9HayTUsaLkgdnMW3R0ihYR DFXY928/M0CMt24AOpBKADcOzC299qrq22kAf4GYhcir77AG5eZA6qKivpbFoUZ5mjHW ROcRnGetwG0yen5YBZdrBB/Or8mnEJ3ax+4YLjBN06/XE2jPj6Jf6T94ymMkDoOh0OYz XF8jl+WcWW/FwrTVshIl/gHBneWhfgj5a63yDP/cA3sAIBO1ZYOYW9v+TJ/bDra4EgEe cNEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FX9YHycaMKcurzTTl9Wvfd2AngSYMttjkZ9TkehgRFjjNjot1b/sdWF2a/yTn1b7owIKUQXC1tnfd10Ow== X-Received: by 10.50.13.74 with SMTP id f10mr21252278igc.55.1461009885933; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:04:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.26.131 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:04:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <571271C9.7050002@lojban.org> <50A08C82-B160-4ADB-B5D9-D2FBB307C32E@gmail.com> <57152A58.3080305@lojban.org> From: Alex Burka Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:04:26 -0400 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] *** CHAIR INTERRUPTS DISCUSSION FOR MOTION TO ADJOURN *** Re: Annual meeting: New Business, anyone? X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0068424746347934724==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============0068424746347934724== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c6f5e43b5f80530c7df9c --089e013c6f5e43b5f80530c7df9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I also vote against. Since the meeting is running quite long (the motivation for adjournment, I guess), let's have more substantive discussion and less of these "testing the waters" motions which are just noise. -- mi'e la durka On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Adam Lopresto wrote: > I vote against adjournment. > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - > LLG wrote: > >> On 4/17/2016 9:30 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: >> >>> I am in the middle of a seven-game home stand, and I'll be out of town >>> on business when it ends, so I don't believe I'm likely to be any more >>> so until next week. In the interests of fast processes, I hereby give my >>> proxy to la .karis., effective from just after this message until 23:59 >>> EDT on April 26. >>> >>> For the sake of procedure being ensured to reflect membership >>> intentions, I second the motion to adjourn, but cast my vote on the >>> procedural point this immediately triggers as .ienai / Nay. >>> >> >> Per the statement of the Parliamentarian, this second triggers an >> immediate vote WITHOUT discussion. >> >> Thus, please stop discussing the various other motions and topics that >> (finally) attracted some discussion, until a majority has voted one way or >> another on the motion to adjourn. >> >> While I suspect that some other people have already voted on adjournment >> embedded in the messages already posted, I ask that people explicitly vote >> on the motion to adjourn ***in a separate post***. >> >> (I will accept this message as Craig's vote given his explanation, but >> I'd rather not even read the existing discussion posts (to look for >> adjournment votes), so that I can keep track of what motions are on the >> floor, if the meeting is not adjourned.) >> >> Please vote. If I see a majority of the entire membership voting one way >> or another, I will rule on adjournment without waiting. Otherwise, voting >> on the motion to adjourn continues until end of day Wednesday (20 April) UT >> (and a majority of the votes cast will then determine the result) >> >> lojbab >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --089e013c6f5e43b5f80530c7df9c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I also vote against. Since the meeting is running quite lo= ng (the motivation for adjournment, I guess), let's have more substanti= ve discussion and less of these "testing the waters" motions whic= h are just noise.

-- mi'e la durka


On Mon, = Apr 18, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Adam Lopresto <adamlopresto@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
I vote a= gainst adjournment.

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:4= 1 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG <lojbab@lojban.org&= gt; wrote:
On 4/17/2016 9:30 PM, C= raig Daniel wrote:
I am in the middle of a seven-game home stand, and I'll be out of town<= br> on business when it ends, so I don't believe I'm likely to be any m= ore
so until next week. In the interests of fast processes, I hereby give my proxy to la .karis., effective from just after this message until 23:59
EDT on April 26.

For the sake of procedure being ensured to reflect membership
intentions, I second the motion to adjourn, but cast my vote on the
procedural point this immediately triggers as .ienai / Nay.

Per the statement of the Parliamentarian, this second triggers an immediate= vote WITHOUT discussion.

Thus, please stop discussing the various other motions and topics that (fin= ally) attracted some discussion, until a majority has voted one way or anot= her on the motion to adjourn.

While I suspect that some other people have already voted on adjournment em= bedded in the messages already posted, I ask that people explicitly vote on= the motion to adjourn ***in a separate post***.

(I will accept this message as Craig's vote given his explanation, but = I'd rather not even read the existing discussion posts (to look for adj= ournment votes), so that I can keep track of what motions are on the floor,= if the meeting is not adjourned.)

Please vote.=C2=A0 If I see a majority of the entire membership voting one = way or another, I will rule on adjournment without waiting.=C2=A0 Otherwise= , voting on the motion to adjourn continues until end of day Wednesday (20 = April) UT (and a majority of the votes cast will then determine the result)=

lojbab

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