Received: from localhost ([::1]:55496 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cWS2r-0004sZ-8z; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:11:45 -0800 Received: from mail-yb0-f169.google.com ([209.85.213.169]:33510) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cWS2l-0004sH-Ml for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:11:43 -0800 Received: by mail-yb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id w194so121922292ybe.0 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:11:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Mm2aau5pV1OoQaEsjT57QWKi4oJrMJZfiwvE1Rfd8/g=; b=a19tG9ovjxz14UCIE/F+bCwPMOw36bYCyLvbrPZ8LpQmkHaZXz+P57ACqiZIDsFCBQ a2RkR8KLYmfUUfa3GySHM1wV1w5RnNbUrq0HULHl8/tDfxki6uwRbAK0BEs5VV1O9aeI BgpDIyAeJo/kVaulDaUahlvo4nHGuckLTLrf43lJYbRLUYXIz1nBijV6CuWUWkL+NnJH oFxm93DnWl0ES5VmaPSiM9+twgaDbjhRAAVmb6JclMwN33A6bs/xgJINKmnJNdLRy4nr ApL726L3gZAgb646fBnBlGvrOMer+1a5A48Ibg77V7fISWSlUYV4fxrISwxq2BsNCAOk m1HQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Mm2aau5pV1OoQaEsjT57QWKi4oJrMJZfiwvE1Rfd8/g=; b=IsJIUcs2+G9tW1OGLOVM5cLkSjLxxrk4n7LVfmToP5NwKGQ1nLykUesc2bpTMTAemk /yZW3SvSRe8AKnxqCyZJOx7RQLNkE9M4x6jw7wJyfxc9VTrlvgNsN9pgTq8WS4kzk6HA 96rbj7EUfYcxo81YWLZ2l5pcxLqXNZF4DSnj4a9LPCV3Q84RIuthVrqU7CihXaBgaIna rjj8DcGsmcVhfWAHCl8QdhU7gX/H1Kt/MXB2WJ3QIXfGYmyOBtDi8VaaPHJW48LMlUpM XDIH47zTY3n2gb18gyn9eK0v+Q2kdFB1xBTmaD4YX+EszN942wNnhkckIKcvdXmyrjtg M6cQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIHs26mjVhVVNdRhg40N8yu6/HQ1+Q7RRc1i3rdgR74geKe7xezHl4eLRAX94tsvvrQRm/tFIafTMWoPQ== X-Received: by 10.129.110.133 with SMTP id j127mr30439896ywc.214.1485367892747; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:11:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.171.2 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.171.2 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:11:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: And Rosta Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:11:32 +0000 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] 2016 Annual Meeting: report on a documentary film X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6332030301427083189==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============6332030301427083189== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11492a149bccc40546ef294a --001a11492a149bccc40546ef294a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 24 Jan 2017 03:07, "guskant" wrote: 1. Overview. I (Guskant) created a film "lo vliraitru" in November 2016. I think it is worth being reported in LLG meeting and also being advertised worldwide, because it is -the first documentary film describing the Lojban community, and -the longest ever film spoken in lojban. 2. Current status. The film is published there: https://vimeo.com/190637628 English and some other subtitles are available by "CC" button. Attention, "Latin" option means subtitles in official Lojban, "English" option means subtitles in Lojban dialects, and "English (United States)" means subtitles in English. Sorry but Vimeo has not yet permitted "lojban" being listed among the subtitles options. I've had time to watch the first third, and found it delightful and utterly sui generis. (I gratefully used the English (United States) subtitles, but ideally I'd have liked to see English and Lojban subtitles simultaneously.) I haven't heard that much Lojban spoken, but the pronunciation in this video is among the clearest I've heard. Most of the actual content goes over my head (as does any symbolism associated with such images as the reticulated and intermittently blushing Venus of Milo); and some of what little I understood seemed strange: some character claims that Lojban is culturally biased against Malayo-Polynesian cultures because their languages contain glottal stops; yet English contains glottal stops too. I was pleased to see a character describe xorxes's ideas as melbi: very apt, and it's gratifying to see those ideas getting the appreciation they deserve. --And. --001a11492a149bccc40546ef294a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On 24 Jan 2017 03:07, "guskant" <gusni.kantu@gmail.com> wrote:
1. Overview.
I (Guskant) created a film "lo vliraitru" in November 2016. I thi= nk it
is worth being reported in LLG meeting and also being advertised
worldwide, because it is
-the first documentary film describing the Lojban community, and
-the longest ever film spoken in lojban.

2. Current status.
The film is published there:
https://vimeo.com/190637628
English and some other subtitles are available by "CC" button. Attention, "Latin" option means subtitles in official Lojban,
"English" option means subtitles in Lojban dialects, and "En= glish
(United States)" means subtitles in English. Sorry but Vimeo has not yet permitted "lojban" being listed among the subtitles options.<= br>

I've had time to watch the first third, and found it delightful an= d utterly sui generis. (I gratefully used the English (United States) subti= tles, but ideally I'd have liked to see English and Lojban subtitles si= multaneously.) I haven't heard that much Lojban spoken, but the pronunc= iation in this video is among the clearest I've heard. Most of the actu= al content goes over my head (as does any symbolism associated with such im= ages as the reticulated and intermittently blushing Venus of Milo); and som= e of what little I understood seemed strange: some character claims that Lo= jban is culturally biased against Malayo-Polynesian cultures because their = languages contain glottal stops; yet English contains glottal stops too. I = was pleased to see a character describe xorxes's ideas as melbi: very a= pt, and it's gratifying to see those ideas getting the appreciation the= y deserve.

--And.
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